Preparedness for when

moneyistooshorttomention

I think I'd better re-read NewShadow's last 2 posts tomorrow - after my 2nd cup of coffee. Brain must have already gone to sleep for the night - as I'm not understanding them at all....:rotfl:

I got Frugalsod's one re the Bank of England and gold and started wondering who would be suing who on that one - presumably gold-owners suing Bank of England? Errr...can the Bank of England be sued - or have they had some law passed that keeps them safe from our ire?

Rather hoping the value of gold will drop anyway from a very personal pov - after that comment earlier about how much a gold chain is worth at the moment. I sat bolt upright and thought "But I gave away several items of gold jewellery - including a pretty hefty gold chain - to Oxfam a few years back!!!!! Duh!!!".

Frugalsod

NewShadow wrote: »

Hmm.... My dad pointed out something interesting today.

My Nan (MSRIP) was born in Ireland. She was Southern Irish. Therefore, technically a native of an EU country.

As she was my nan, I can apply for duel nationality. Costs about £400 (Why I've not done it yet).

Loads of people are currently applying to become duel EU/British nationals so they can stay in the country if we leave the EU.

Do you think it's worth me starting to save for my green passport - so I get free travel/residence rights? Or would that really be 'worst case scenario'?

My 'Normal' passport is due to run out mid-2018.

It is actually a lot less to get an Irish passport. You might have additional expenses to prove you are related, to your grandmother but I only needed a long form birth certificate about £12, plus the passport fee €80.

If you think you might have to work abroad then it is always useful. The main benefit for me is that Ireland has never been at war with anyone and so access to countries is easier. I discovered a Chinese visa as a UK citizen would cost me £85 but only £20 as an Irish citizen. That almost pays for the passport itself.

Frugalsod

Mars recalls chocolate in 55 countries

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35642075

NewShadow

Frugalsod wrote: »

It is actually a lot less to get an Irish passport. You might have additional expenses to prove you are related, to your grandmother but I only needed a long form birth certificate about £12, plus the passport fee €80.

If you think you might have to work abroad then it is always useful. The main benefit for me is that Ireland has never been at war with anyone and so access to countries is easier. I discovered a Chinese visa as a UK citizen would cost me £85 but only £20 as an Irish citizen. That almost pays for the passport itself.

Yes, it's the getting the nationalisation bit that cost the £'s. The passport is apparently actually 'Free'.

jk0

I had a friend on the phone to me this afternoon rehashing Cameldung's speech about why we should stay in the EU.

After about ten minutes of trying to change the subject, I told him he was p*ssing me off, and to ring back when he had something else to discuss.

Perplexed_Pineapple

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

I'm finding all the spin very confusing because both sides, the stay and the leave brigades are telling us that the same thing will happen i.e less secure from terrorism if we leave and also less secure from terrorism if we stay in! how are we expected to formulate an opinion if there is no difference in what both sides are saying will be the outcome either way? Craziness!!!

Should I quote Benjamin Franklin at you, Mrs LW? You know the one I mean
I'm not entitled to dual nationality (unless Cornwall secedes :rotfl:) but I would jump at the chance if I had it, in a real crisis being able to move to another country without it being questioned could be very valuable, whether that be to escape an environmental hazard or to look for work if unemployment rises here. I read some interesting stuff at the weekend about the shift in employment patterns, apparently a lot of jobs have been lost to automation rather than to China or similar. Soon goods will be unloaded from shipping containers by robots onto driverless trucks, unloaded at local depots by more robots and delivered to individuals by drones. This isn't futuristic - the technology is there now and it is going to happen. Children in school today will need skills that were unknown to us to stay employable. Interesting times.....

NewShadow

Perplexed_Pineapple wrote: »

Children in school today will need skills that were unknown to us to stay employable. Interesting times.....

Thankfully we'll aways need [STRIKE]bullsh!te[/STRIKE] bureaucracy, so my job's safe

Frugalsod

NewShadow wrote: »

Thankfully we'll aways need [STRIKE]bullsh!te[/STRIKE] bureaucracy, so my job's safe

Until they computerise it. :beer:

NewShadow

That's a question - if skynet were to take over the civil service, with the goal of undermining the governance of the country, do you think anyone would notice?

moneyistooshorttomention

NewShadow wrote: »

That's a question - if skynet were to take over the civil service, with the goal of undermining the governance of the country, do you think anyone would notice?

Should be safe for them not noticing - providing it's all still a lot more hassle than it needs to be to do anything to do with Government, there are loads of regulations to conform with and the Civil Service is clearly abiding by the Prime Law of Existence (ie "Protect own back at all times").

I can say that - as I was a civil servant for many years:rotfl:

Though I must say - I agree with Pineapple and am watching the "march of the robots" with a degree of fascinated horror. Things moved just about slowly enough over the course of my working lifetime to be able to just about "hang on in there to a job" whilst I watched the amount of work personal secretaries were needed for vanishing bit by bit and everyone and their dog reckoned they could type (courtesy of computers and a lowering of standards expected generally). I think I was reading that computers will take over some jobs quite "high up the scale". I seem to remember that they are even going to be able to replace some professional jobs (eg solicitor) - as my reaction to that was "Well - that has to be an improvement - considering how bad the standard of some solicitors I've come across is".