Preparedness for when

mardatha

I'm another one who could claim an Irish passport... I always wanted to retire to Connemara too. Sigh.

greenbee

GreyQueen wrote: »

Re the wonders of technology, I would cast a very cynical eye over them. Just because something is possible, doesn't mean it's economically viable. I could easily see ashphalt bandits waylaying those dinky little drones and the automated delivery carts, stealing the payload, joyriding the vehicle and crashing it in the canal. Never underestimate the power of humanity to use things inappropriately.

Much of this technology still doesn't have a real commercial applications. I wouldn't worry too much about it at present. It certainly isn't 'artificial intelligence' as we think of it from what science fiction has let us to imagine it as. for a bit of entertainment, google 'Chef Watson' and have a play :cool:

GreyQueen wrote: »

Hell, Mar, given the devaluation of the £ over the last 50 years, £200 might well be the everyday price of those items in another 50........ I'm still p'd off that the premium bonds have never come up, though.:rotfl:

I felt the same about mine GQ, so I sold them. Never got a penny...

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Add in - that if (when!!!) the EU breaks up anyway (which its all the more likely to do if Britain leaves it and sets a precedent) they would have "nationality" for a "country" that no longer exists iyswim?

Eire would still exist even if the EU broke up. The countries that make it up won't vanish just because the EU changes or ceases to exist.

Frugalsod

GreyQueen wrote: »

Plus, if a substantial amount of us are going to be unemployed, there will be a lot less shopping going on, and a lot more crime, neither of which circumstance will be business-friendly. And if unemployment benefits are stopped or reduced to bare survival levels, there will be mahoosive civil unrest, so TPTB will have to keep a lid on things or the proles will kill them.

There I was thinking you were going to be depressing and you end it on an uplifting note. :beer:

Frugalsod

mardatha wrote: »

I'm reading a lot of stuff on prepper forums about investing in gold (and silver), which is up to the individual. But if you had kept that sovereign for 50 years and then were starving....you might end up having to trade it for a cottage loaf and half doz eggs GQ. Maybe the £200 would go further lol

Yes that is why cash is higher in my priorities than gold. Silver will lower value and so more useful is also hampered by the fact that so few know what an ounce of each is worth. If you want items for trading bottles of alcohol would probably be a better alternative. Cigarettes could have some value but that is slowly diminishing as people give up smoking. In the US many drug deals are paid for with Tide detergent. So keep an eye on what is the most shop lifted items because these are most likely to be the new currency of choice when the SHTF.

Though I would also think that day to day items like flour and eggs would be tradable as well, or things that people will need. Skills could also be traded for items if needed. Never forget about good old barter.

mumps

I've been thinking of getting an Irish passport, my husband has dual nationality for the commonwealth country where he was born and my children can have a British, Irish or their dad's country passport. I don't automatically have a right to citizenship of my husband's country of birth but I think if my husband and kids were there I would get a visa. I like the idea of just being able to go somewhere else if we needed to.

There are countries that are easier to go to if you have an Irish rather than British passport, so my siblings tell me as they have got them and have travelled on them for many years while working abroad personally I have never had a problem travelling with a British or EU passport but I suppose it depends where you want to go.

maryb

The point is you would be entitled to freedom of movement within the EU on an Irish passport even if they bring back border controls for the UK following a Brexit

maryb

ETA
I really must remember to refresh my screen before posting - sorry if that seemed a bit random it was in response to MTSTM not seeing why an Irish passport could be useful

ivyleaf

NewShadow wrote: »

I don't know if everyone else has seen this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/features/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35641263/35641263

It's the highlights of the 1975 campaign.

It was very interesting/amusing to see the similarities thus far... almost as if were living in a remake of an old film. Minor plot points being changed for a modern audience.

Thank you for that link, NewShadow. Fascinating to watch! In 1975 my OH was in the Army and we'd recently returned to the UK, and we somehow weren't registered to vote in that referendum which explains why I can't remember doing it! I'm sure I would have voted to stay "IN", though, as it seemed the logical option at the time.

I shall probably vote "OUT" this time.

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Invested in the latest 'PERMACULTURE' magazine when I was in town this morning, very useful article in there about using the compost heap to generate hot water that might be a very handy method should there be power grid problems. Worth a read.

Frugalsod

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

Invested in the latest 'PERMACULTURE' magazine when I was in town this morning, very useful article in there about using the compost heap to generate hot water that might be a very handy method should there be power grid problems. Worth a read.

I have only recently discovered permaculture but recognise its massive potential particularly for food collection. The density of food production with permaculture is incredible. I did see a variation used in Malaysia where they planted local crops underneath palm trees, though in hindsight with the deforestation that they did to put the palm plantations in it probably did not make up for the other environmental damage done.