Preparedness for when

moneyistooshorttomention

greenbee wrote: »

Anything sprayed in the face, or even a strong torch beam shone in the eyes (smartphone camera flash/torch is good) will disorientate someone enough to allow you to get away (assuming you have an escape route planned/can outrun them). However, it does need to be accessible and available for instant reaction - so don't keep it in your handbag - it can take me minutes to find something in mine, despite it being fairly small!

I now have a key-ring anyway that has a mini-torch on it (courtesy of rather less lighting where I'm living now) and had wondered about that.

I read the other day that some women have carried their keys around in manner resembling knuckledusters (ie poking out through fingers). In theory - I would certainly be prepared to use keys aimed at an attackers eyes. In practice - I feel rather squeamish at the idea/not sure if it would work and don't fancy risking losing my keys obviously. Whereas - I would find it easy to just spray something and that "something" would be expendable.

It does rather sound like spray deodorant or hairspray would be the way to go for women - as that's obviously something we would likely carry around anyway.

I get the point that things might go the wrong way round legally in theory if carrying something more unusual. I guess I tend to assume that the "Do I look/sound like a burly, rough young man?" would be protection against "legals" drawing wrong conclusions about me. Errrr...nope....yer standard middle-aged etc etc little woman would mean yer "legals" would realise I had it on me as protection (and not offence) iyswim and that would protect me from them thinking I might use something like that for the "wrong reasons" (ie offensive) in actual practice is what I tend to assume.

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moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Errrr...nope....yer standard middle-aged etc etc little woman would mean yer "legals" would realise I had it on me as protection (and not offence) iyswim and that would protect me from them thinking I might use something like that for the "wrong reasons" (ie offensive) in actual practice is what I tend to assume.

I'm afraid that isn't going to help you.

An offensive weapon is defined as one of the following:-

1. An object design for causing injury.

2. An object adapted for causing injury.

3. An object intended for causing injury.

The law does not discriminate, between use for attack or defence.

The mere possession, in a public place (without lawful authority, or reasonable excuse), is an offence.

That you were carrying it for protection, is not a satisfactory defence.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

I can only carry my tazer if I have a farm animal in my possession.. Trailering it somewhere, or going to collect an animal etc , so I could not intentionally walk round a supermarket etc knowingly have it in my possession... ( I think)

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Do you have an actual Tazer, or is it a Cattle Prod?

pineapple

When the Ripper was active in my neck of the woods, if I had to go out at night I used to carry a bag of chilli in my pocket on the off chance that I might just get to poke/shake some in his eyes if attacked. I didn't give a stuff how the law would view it and I still wouldn't if I felt similarly threatened.

pineapple

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Do you have an actual Tazer, or is it a Cattle Prod?

Maybe even a taser.....

COOLTRIKERCHICK

Cattle prod, sorry didn't mean to confuse

Similar to this one
http://www.fearing.co.uk/cattle/handling-and-restraining/coaxer/magic-shock-and-handy-belt-pouch?gclid=CjwKEAiA8ee0BRD1l7vV6JHe0zISJADxYItm2od3i0oWZE3aCpFVeKPrsIwfUelR6c81BF_oKXEwKxoCV5jw_wcB

pineapple

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

Cattle prod, sorry didn't mean to confuse

Similar to this one
http://www.fearing.co.uk/cattle/handling-and-restraining/coaxer/magic-shock-and-handy-belt-pouch?gclid=CjwKEAiA8ee0BRD1l7vV6JHe0zISJADxYItm2od3i0oWZE3aCpFVeKPrsIwfUelR6c81BF_oKXEwKxoCV5jw_wcB

Interesting. Would that cause actual harm to a person (so long as they don't have a pacemaker :eek:) or would it just deliver enough of a shock to buy you time if attacked? Heads on over to Amazon...:D
PS I also found a self defence spray which claims to be legal

moneyistooshorttomention

pineapple wrote: »

When the Ripper was active in my neck of the woods, if I had to go out at night I used to carry a bag of chilli in my pocket on the off chance that I might just get to poke/shake some in his eyes if attacked. I didn't give a stuff how the law would view it and I still wouldn't if I felt similarly threatened.

Well - that was you just having forgotten to take the shopping out and put it in the kitchen cupboards wasn't it?;)

...and yep....I've always taken the view too that I'm entitled to defend myself if need be and wouldn't lose a moments sleep if I ended up literally killing someone (provided they had attacked me first). I couldn't kill someone on the Governments say-so (ie "We're fighting a war and go and kill that person in the opposition army") and would refuse pointblank. But I could easily do so if I needed to personally iyswim and think "Oh well....they shouldn't have attacked me...". Let's face it - you can hardly be an aggressive type of person if you've only lashed out once since one childhood incident (that was slapping a boyfriend across the face once in a quarrel) and that's having been here on Earth for over 60 years.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

pineapple wrote: »

Interesting. Would that cause actual harm to a person (so long as they don't have a pacemaker :eek:) or would it just deliver enough of a shock to buy you time if attacked? Heads on over to Amazon...:D
PS I also found a self defence spray which claims to be legal[/QUOTE

Haven't got a clue, and I don't think I want to find out lol..

We haven't used it, we bought it as we had a young boar that started being a bit boisterous , and needed to go.. And up until then we couldn't get him on the trailer, so we bought it just incase, but on the day of the auction he walked straight on the trailer.. I think it just like a sock from an electric fence..

But in a SHTF moment I should imagine it would be enough to disable them for a few seconds for you to run...

It doesn't ark between the 2 prods like you see in the movies lol]