Preparedness for when

mardatha

Re the future without oil, I think statistics are useless and most theories will prove wrong. Because in all the books I've read about the two world wars, 99.5% of the things people and govt bodies assumed would happen, were wrong. We aren't very good at telling the future lol.
But personally I think CTC's theory is closest to what will happen, oil will just go higher and higher in price and we will just gradually go backward, but I don't know.

fuddle

Vocational training, by it's very nature, demands some degree of academic ability. Schemes like thriftwizard mentioned suggest to me a great way of engaging non academics in a way that is hands on, tailored to ability and then follow up with life experience and basic skills without having to regimentally conform to gain a vocational certificate.

Having dug around a little I've come across the Prisoner's Education Trust. They are a charity working in prisons to assist with distance learning courses. They range from GCSE's, A Levels, OU, sports and coaching, counselling, horticulture, agriculture, animal care... I'll not go on. Interestingly with the OU option it appears, that with this charity, a loan will need to be applied for in the prisoners name. So it appears that in this instance at least it's not a given for offenders to be able to gain a degree as part of their rehabilitation. All courses seem to have to have a grant applied for in the prisoners name with the prisons agreeing to 10% of the cost of the grant.

Also interestingly I read that Ofsted flagged up in December the need to improve prison education.

Incase your girlfriend might be interested jko http://www.prisonerseducation.org.uk/course-curriculum

Frugalsod

mardatha wrote: »

Re the future without oil, I think statistics are useless and most theories will prove wrong. Because in all the books I've read about the two world wars, 99.5% of the things people and govt bodies assumed would happen, were wrong. We aren't very good at telling the future lol.
But personally I think CTC's theory is closest to what will happen, oil will just go higher and higher in price and we will just gradually go backward, but I don't know.

That is a pretty good analysis. It also depends on how fast the changes come, what sort of policy responses are brought in by governments, not just here but everywhere else as it will have repercussions for us as well.

I think people will slowly be priced out of using oil for things slowly starting with transport and heating. People like GQ who lives within walking distance of work will be least impacted by transport costs rising. Heating costs might be ameliorated by visiting shops and cafes instead. JK Rowling wrote Harry Potter in a cafe because she could not afford to heat her flat.

It will impact us all differently depending on our current lifestyles, some being impacted more than others.

fuddle

In this oil age so much of what we consume comes from oil.

Including but not exhaustive:
plastics
glycerine
parabens
polyester fabric
candle wax
vitamin casings
active ingredients from over the counter medicines
a vast majority of toiletries
food additives/colourings (sweeties!)
soapless detergents
denture adhesive
road surfaces
crayons

So many of our every day objects started life as oil so a great many more would feel quite a change in the availability of every day objects had we no oil and I would like to put it that everything else would suffer first before it got to petroleum for transport or oil for heating, coming at it from a multi £$ corporations angle

It's something that I am just starting to get my nose into in order to make more changes but it's fascinating stuff as a prepper because so much of the kit I have begins it's life from oil. :cool:

RAS

Bit random but I thought this was interesting http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29629761

[Deleted User]

Also most

Pharmaceutical drugs,
Fertilizers,
Fungicides,
Pesticides,
Petrol,
Diesel,
Plastics of all kinds,(most cars are 3/4 plastic)
The humble carrier bag,
Dyes (azodyes for wool etc)

the list is almost endless and without oil products we'd have to find our way to products to do the same jobs from other sources, it would be very difficult and life would be very different.

fuddle

I'm finding the whole issue a real eye opener and going about it in my usual excitable new project kind of way but I have to say that for me I am very keen on reducing my consumption of oil products and quite happy to scale it all back. I'm quite happy (and very keen) to educate myself about ideas of old but that interests me and I understand not everyone will have that outlook.

I know there's no place for romanticism and my thinking goes back to the roses and bread issue of a few days ago for me, but what if the roses could come from the individual process that brings about the bread? Creating and succeeding on our own in a society that can supply the bread when we fail... but in that failiure some one else prospers. If only?

Ok, yeah I shall wake up. Adorn my plastic wellies, acrylic hat, polyester brolly and no doubt man made fabrics in my coat to go get my kiddies from school who are also wrapped in plastic.

[Deleted User]

Keep dreaming love, and keep exploring possibilities and experimenting with alternatives to oil products. Some things will work, some won't but that's what life is about isn't it? and you will find out what you can easily do without, what you really DO need and perhaps some 'better' alternatives to what's on offer in the present today. Good luck small one, it will be interesting to hear of your findings, Lyn xxx.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

Paper bags.. And greaseproof paper?? Where do they stand in the scale of oil?? I know obviously oil for fuel to transport,

Tin foil??

COOLTRIKERCHICK

There is alot on sky about this year being crucial financially.. Re- historically high deficit, the collapsing economy of China re stock markets etc..