Preparedness for when

pineapple

GreyQueen wrote: »

Rats seem to be particularly fond of dog biscuits, for some reason.:eek:

I think I've told this story before but years back, I only realised that I had acquired mouse guests when I went to put on my walking boots (kept in the spare room) and was met with a 'scrunch'. One of them was half full of dog mixer! The little beggars had been carting it from the bag in the kitchen to store in my boots! :huh:
Taught me a lesson about leaving nothing out.

pineapple

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

What I don't get is the sheer level of incompetence of having a known terrorist in your hands - and letting them go!!! (more than once at that). Yet - I've heard no mention of "heads will roll for doing your job so badly" about such mega-inefficiency.

I would have expected those incompetents to be hauled straight in in front of their boss and very publicly and immediately sacked. But we haven't heard a thing about that happening. If I'd been their boss - they would have found out the meaning of "Hell hath no fury" in very short order.

I wouldn't expect to be informed till the dust is dry - if indeed we do get informed. But there is bound to be an enquiry - which could be long and complex. I doubt it will be as simple as calling just one individual to account. They will want to look at systemic issues and probably international co-operation will be tightened up too.

fuddle

I think it goes higher up the ranks. There's a possibility that the 'mastermind' was amongst the raids in the early hours. No confirmation yet but if that turns out to be true, reports suggest that French and Belgium officials thought he was in Syria :cool:

Frugalsod

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

What I don't get is the sheer level of incompetence of having a known terrorist in your hands - and letting them go!!! (more than once at that). Yet - I've heard no mention of "heads will roll for doing your job so badly" about such mega-inefficiency.

I would have expected those incompetents to be hauled straight in in front of their boss and very publicly and immediately sacked. But we haven't heard a thing about that happening. If I'd been their boss - they would have found out the meaning of "Hell hath no fury" in very short order.

His name was not on the stop list for several hours after he had passed through. Hard to stop someone if you do not know the name. Though if the border had truly been shut off then that would not have happened, but you would have long queues to deal with.

armyknife

jk0 wrote: »

This might interest you guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXavIbOQnZw

Not sure what to make of that, but "Paris Attack False Flag: Conspiracy Hoax Exposed" maked me concerned.

I don't have time to watch random youtube videos, so executive summary please.

Perplexed_Pineapple

I thought the youtube link looked a bit "tin-foil-hat". Totally unlike this man - own up, is it one of you? :rotfl:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/meet-the-plumber-who-has-built-an-underground-apocalypse-bunker/

armyknife

What should you do in an attack?

BBC news item here:

What should you do in an attack?

Attacks of the magnitude of those that took place in Paris, killing 129 people and injuring more than 400, are extremely rare. The authorities do prepare for these emergencies but what advice is there for ordinary people?

Many survivors of the Paris attacks have said that they mistook the first gunshots for fireworks. This is typical, says John Leach, survival psychologist and military survival instructor.

People who are not expecting gunshots will assume that they are something else because it does not fit in with their expectations. "We respond to the model in our head and we don't respond directly to the environment and that is what makes us vulnerable," he says.

The time it can take to understand what is happening can be lethal. But if someone has already thought through a few worst-case scenarios then this process will be quicker. "All you need to ask is - if anything goes wrong, what is my first response going to be?" explains Leach.

.......

Full article here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34844518

Frugalsod

Perplexed_Pineapple wrote: »

I thought the youtube link looked a bit "tin-foil-hat". Totally unlike this man - own up, is it one of you? :rotfl:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/meet-the-plumber-who-has-built-an-underground-apocalypse-bunker/

Interesting that he has a ladder to get in and out so that make it disabled unfriendly and you never know when some condition makes it impossible to use a ladder.

Overall the idea is fairly sound. A big single room with things to keep yourself entertained while you are waiting for the radiation levels to fall to a level that does not cause you to mutate.

Though it looks like it is one giant Faraday cage so good to protect electronics in.

GreyQueen

Very relevant, armyknife.

I have heard of cases where military veterans have hit the ground when started by a sudden unexpected sound which might be gunfire, not because of cowardice, but because it triggers conditioned reflexes.

My friend and neighbour SuperGran, now in her seventies, hates to hear balloons pop. Not because she's a miseryguts or a nervous nellie. It's because they sound superficially like gunfire and she has nursed as a Red Cross vounteer in conflicts in the seventies in SE Asia.

I suppose another danger is that we might see something very dodgy looking and assume that it was a movie being shot, or some kind of prank, or fancy dress. The common reaction is along the lines of I can't believe this is happening!

I no longer go into small interview room with strangers as have changed jobs, but you do get to be pretty observant at close quarters, and to be aware of the contracted pupils of some drug addicts and the general changed appearance of people who are 'on something'.

Overall, we all need to be aware that drunks are far more unpredicatably dangerous than drug-users and far more widely encountered.

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Without wanting to think the worst of the world and its inhabitants I think we all have to come to the realisation that no one of us is exempt from being caught up in an act of terror anywhere, anywhen it's something that comes unexpectedly and if we are in the place it happens, we're going to be involved whether we want to or not. Being aware of your surroundings at all times, being ready to take action to remove yourself to a safer place if that's possible, looking for exits, looking for shelter wherever you happen to be won't guarantee your safety or survival but might just give you a better chance of still being alive at the end of it. I never go in to anywhere without deliberately looking for ways out, have a plan in my head of what I'd do if anything kicked off and an awareness that it's a possibility something might happen, not just think I'll be OK and nothing WILL happen because I'm in the high street etc. I saw a really disturbing interview on the news on Saturday morning where an interviewer was talking to some folks in Guildford in Surrey and every one of them said it will never happen in Guildford, we're too far from the capitol, there's nothing here to attack. Complacency is NOT a safe and sensible attitude, we can't live our lives in fear but we CAN be alert and aware of the outside possibility that it could happen, no matter how far from the capitol and no matter how unlikely it seems in prospect and be prepared to take action if it does not think Oh it's just fireworks/ a film being made. Even if it IS either of those two things I'd rather look a fool and still be alive than a dead spectator!