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  • maryb
    maryb Posts: 4,726 Forumite
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    Just what I thought! Probably not cut off but reduced which will probably do 'orrible things (technical term) to one's appliances
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
  • Frugalsod
    Frugalsod Posts: 2,966 Forumite
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    jk0 wrote: »
    BTW, I guess this is why TPTB are so keen for us all to have smart meters, isn't it?

    Once about 90% of people have them, I dare say that your supply conditions will change so that anyone can have their supply cut off if there is a crisis.

    Don't fall for it, folks.
    I have a smart meter. When it was installed I had a chat with the installation engineer about it. All it does is send data back via mobile to HQ every 30 minutes. It completely negates the need for meter readings and that will be the main impact, no more meter readers. Also no more estimated bills either. Whether there are capabilities to remote disconnect I doubt, but it does not work out what devices you are using, as all it does is send power usage figures to HQ.

    There are other benefits without meter readers there will be no more of the fake meter readers trying to gain access to your home. If you are growing lots of marijuana plants it would be detected far more easily but since that is not a concern of mine it is not really an issue.
    It's really easy to default to cynicism these days, since you are almost always certain to be right.
  • GreyQueen
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    :) You bypass the electricity meter before you start farming cannabis, Frugalsod. You don't think they pay for their own juice?

    At work, we sometimes take calls from the utility companies concerned that Mr Bloggs hasn't been putting any credit on their prepayment meter, or to tell us that they've entered a premises to replace the tampered-with meter. You tamper with a conventional meter and the replacement will be a pre-payment kind.

    Even without a smart meter, their pooters are paying attention to your consumption.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
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  • fuddle
    fuddle Posts: 6,823 Forumite
    My issue with smart meters is that I fear I lose control as a service user. I choose a company, they don't choose me and certainly don't dictate to me. That's how I feel anyway, whether it's naïve to think that.

    I also would like to know who has access to my information. I mean that smart meter would record when we're home at a very basic level surely.

    I have seen too much in the way of carrot dangling for these meters and I smell a rat. ;)

    Any true information to the contrary would be very well received.
  • ivyleaf wrote: »
    Frugalsod says, if necessary, companies will be asked to limit their use for a short time to ensure domestic supplies continue.

    High demand periods are known as Triads.

    My company is a high power user and, most years, we get a handful of Triad warnings.
  • GreyQueen
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    fuddle wrote: »
    My issue with smart meters is that I fear I lose control as a service user. I choose a company, they don't choose me and certainly don't dictate to me. That's how I feel anyway, whether it's naïve to think that.

    I also would like to know who has access to my information. I mean that smart meter would record when we're home at a very basic level surely.

    I have seen too much in the way of carrot dangling for these meters and I smell a rat. ;)

    Any true information to the contrary would be very well received.
    :) When my utility company wanted to change the meter just over a year ago, I checked very carefully that what they wanted to install wasn't a smart meter (it wasn't) and checked again with the engineer on the day (still wasn't). I dinnae trust the beggars.

    A lot of your electicity consumption is going to be a pretty static baseline; fridges and freezers, the small draw for the boiler etc. Obviously you're using more at home such as running the PC as opposed to just running the router. But unless they've got programs charting your typical usage in real time, how are they going to tell that you're on your holibobs for a week or off at night class? You could be home reading a book instead of using a powered appliance.

    I have time switches - in my case, the light might well be on and no one be home.:rotfl:
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)
  • maryb wrote: »
    which will probably do 'orrible things (technical term) to one's appliances

    That sounds painful. :D
  • GreyQueen wrote: »
    I have time switches - in my case, the light might well be on and no one be home.:rotfl:

    I do that.

    I also have one of these. :)
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  • elaine241
    elaine241 Posts: 437 Forumite
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    Pineapple that is the point! LOL
    Really when you look around the average farm there are many legitimate weapons that we consider everyday items.
    My boys (9 &10) have jobs to do before they go to school and accidentally carried their penknifes in pockets to school as they were cutting bales. Massive hoo har from teachers, headmaster, parents as my boys took "weapons" into school (FB didnt help with the parents ranting!). As a result meeting with head master to explain we see knives as every day carry tools for on the farm not weapons!! Similar problem with another farm child when he picked a shotgun cartridge up off the pick up floor & absent mindedly put it in his school trousers pocket.
    Being "outed" on this board for having a weapon in the shape of a pink muck fork was surprising especially for me as I didnt realise I had such a weapon!
    I wonder what I could come up with if I really put my mind to building up weapons? Pineapples beware!!



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  • nuatha
    nuatha Posts: 1,932 Forumite
    elaine241
    I have pitch forks, a log splitting axe, hand axes, knifes, several types of gun and plenty of ammo ,,,,,,,,,,, hand "hackers", garden forks, chainsaws, etc etc
    pineapple wrote: »
    Backs slowly away...:eek:

    The problem with backing away is what sharp object are you going to trip over and impale yourself on (I know, I've watch far too many "B" movies)
    elaine241 wrote: »
    Pineapple that is the point! LOL
    Really when you look around the average farm there are many legitimate weapons that we consider everyday items.
    My boys (9 &10) have jobs to do before they go to school and accidentally carried their penknifes in pockets to school as they were cutting bales. Massive hoo har from teachers, headmaster, parents as my boys took "weapons" into school (FB didnt help with the parents ranting!). As a result meeting with head master to explain we see knives as every day carry tools for on the farm not weapons!! Similar problem with another farm child when he picked a shotgun cartridge up off the pick up floor & absent mindedly put it in his school trousers pocket.
    Being "outed" on this board for having a weapon in the shape of a pink muck fork was surprising especially for me as I didnt realise I had such a weapon!
    I wonder what I could come up with if I really put my mind to building up weapons? Pineapples beware!!

    The obvious weaponry in this house are swords and a bow. There's a fairly large selection of knives; culinary and butchery, there's axes, saws, chisels and other sharp woodworking tools. I doubt there's much in the gardening kit that would be considered weapons. Generally there's lots of material that could be adapted - a few years back I made a ballista for a short film a mate was making.
    It amazes me that people now react to everyday tools as weapons first and foremost. Particularly the examples you give - some of my growing up was done on farms and I'd have cartridges or occasionally bullets in my pockets. Actually when I think of it there were few boys in my school who didn't routinely carry a pocket knife. (There were a few girls who did, but I think it was the reverse ratio).
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