Preparedness for when

Frugalsod

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

Sabre rattling, politicians have always been good at sabre rattling and the cry of 'Send a gun boat!', it's political muscle flexing and a very BIG game of 'DARE' to see who will blink first. No one can predict the outcome but playing at playground gangs and sending more of 'our side' into the Balkan states because the other gang won't play by the rules you have set for yours in Syria is NOT an adult response is it?

Too many politicians playing soldiers, maybe they might think differently if their families were drafted into frontline units? Give them a real stake in the outcome and they might try something differently. Personally I am not so sure they will be able to push us into another war. Far too many skeptics out there now.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

Why does the name keep changing??

They have been called

ISIS

IS

And now

ISLE

As you say frugalsod... Its OK for the main politicians to instruct things etc, but they know none of them, or their families will get hurt, if SHTF they have major bunkers to live in...

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BUT if the war ends .......they have to come out of them again don't they? and if there are any of us 'little people' left then they'll have to be held accountable for their actions and accept whatever penalties the rest of humanity decide are appropriate to the scale of their involvement in whatever happens! No one is exempt from the law, not even those who make and enforce it!

Karmacat

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

Even now hubby will not sign on, or our eldest.. As we can cope for now..

jk0 wrote: »

CTC, I think you need to have a calm serious chat with them. My stepfather wouldn't sign on either when he lost his Civil Engineering job, as he thought he would soon get another.
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Point out that they will have paid taxes in the past, and they should not feel guilty about having a little bit back.

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

jko... I think when the stress of everything calms down, Ihe might might listen, at the moment he has lost loads of weight with the stress of everything, so I will not pressure him at mo, its normally me that suffers with the stress of things,

I'm glad this has been mentioned! I don't want to pile it on, CTC, but yes, signing on is one of our **rights** - at the very least, it pays what used to be known as "the stamp". As an 19 year old, home from my first year of college, I was trying to find work, and very dubious about the idea of signing on ... but my parents said, we've paid taxes, its your right to get that money. So I went down the dole office. And what they said really stuck with me. In spite of all the mad forms they want you to fill in, and stupid interviews. If they want to do that stuff, okay, thats your job, thats what they want you to do to get that money, stuff em, I'm not going to be put off by it. I'm going to claim the rights my mum and dad said that I have. I've been very :cool: about it ever since.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

BUT if the war ends .......they have to come out of them again don't they? and if there are any of us 'little people' left then they'll have to be held accountable for their actions and accept whatever penalties the rest of humanity decide are appropriate to the scale of their involvement in whatever happens! No one is exempt from the law, not even those who make and enforce it!

I think the few people that would be left ( depending on the scale of the effects of a full out war) the people who authorised or who are in power better not come out of their rat holes, as I am sure they wouldn't even make it a few hundred yards out in the day light..

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Justice is a wonderful institution, try them and let the people decide what the punishment should be, the law is applicable to every single citizen no matter how high or low in society they are rated, and justice being seen to be done within the law is a very powerful tool.

Doveling

Justice is wonderful

Jury is still out on the equality of the judicial system

Frugalsod

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

I think the few people that would be left ( depending on the scale of the effects of a full out war) the people who authorised or who are in power better not come out of their rat holes, as I am sure they wouldn't even make it a few hundred yards out in the day light..

The same might apply if they no longer had police protection. They might be less willing to travel to parts of the country they have devastated with their cuts.

Frugalsod

This is about Americans but I doubt that figures here would be much better.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/most-americans-have-less-than-1000-in-savings-2015-10-06

moneyistooshorttomention

Frugalsod wrote: »

Too many politicians playing soldiers, maybe they might think differently if their families were drafted into frontline units? Give them a real stake in the outcome and they might try something differently. Personally I am not so sure they will be able to push us into another war. Far too many skeptics out there now.

...and those who are so sceptical they might not place limits on what they did to stop it....for the sake of the greater good...:cool: