Preparedness for when

moneyistooshorttomention

Frugalsod wrote: »

Or a TARDIS, so much more practical. :beer:

You've just come up with one of my Impossible Wishes:rotfl:. I've often thought "If I could go back to, say, 1970 and live out my remaining 20 or so years before Things Started Getting Really Bad that would help". Mind you - on the other hand - it would probably be more practical to just time jump back to a decent size Lottery Win that went unclaimed, check out the numbers, and then leap back to a few days before then to buy a ticket for it:).

Hmmm....wonder if that several acre smallholding in very nice location in West Country is still available to buy:think: - once I'd gutted the old-fashioned house it would be perfick for me.

Sighs...and wakes up and thinks "Time to make some lunch I guess":rotfl:

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lillibet_dripping wrote: »

Here's a question .....

On 'Desert Island Discs' why does nobody take 'The SAS Survival Guide' as their chosen book and a Swiss army knife (or similar) as their luxury item?

Or maybe a tent?

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We're on the USS Enterprise page. :cool:

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moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

I've often thought "If I could go back to, say, 1970 and live out my remaining 20 or so years before Things Started Getting Really Bad that would help". Mind you - on the other hand - it would probably be more practical to just time jump back to a decent size Lottery Win that went unclaimed, check out the numbers, and then leap back to a few days before then to buy a ticket for it:).

Being careful not to fall foul of the Grandfather Paradox.

moneyistooshorttomention

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Being careful not to fall foul of the Grandfather Paradox.

Okays - now you gotta explain what a Grandfather Paradox is please:rotfl:

Its not summat akin to the Butterfly Effect is it? - ie the one that goes if a time traveller went back into the past and accidentally trod on a butterfly that would otherwise have continued with its natural lifespan - could that tiny little incident cause a "chain of effects" that would change the future?

nuatha

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Okays - now you gotta explain what a Grandfather Paradox is please:rotfl:

Its not summat akin to the Butterfly Effect is it? - ie the one that goes if a time traveller went back into the past and accidentally trod on a butterfly that would otherwise have continued with its natural lifespan - could that tiny little incident cause a "chain of effects" that would change the future?

Butterfly Effect is more associated with Chaos Effect, butterfly flaps its wings in China, hurricane in the USA sort of thing.
Though Ray Bradbury had a novel with the time travelling protagonist squashing a prehistoric butterfly and changing modern politics for the worse.
Grandfather Effect is preventing your grandfather from fathering your parent, in which case what happens to you - the classic time traveller's paradox.

HTH

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It's an interesting thought that there are pockets of 'expertise' in areas that would be very useful in a less technological future for whatever reason that caused it. Those who are re-enactors who have acquired the skills of their chosen period in history to enable them to make the equipment and clothing they need will be very useful, those who have the knowledge of open cast mining would be a valuable commodity for minerals and coal, those who know how to extract metal from ore by all that is involved in smelting and cast metal implements, as would smallholders, subsistence farmers, hill farmers who know sheep management, horsemen who know stock and can train horses for riding, carriage work, ploughing etc. those back to naturists who can snare rabbits , those who can tickle trout, those who can forage , whose who can safely fell trees using an axe and saw, those who actually know how to dig a well safely, thatchers who know how to harvest and season reeds, bodgers who can work with a pole lathe and green wood, potters who can work with a treadle wheel and know how to construct and fire a kiln, those who can make a clay oven and many many more right down to us who can preserve, grow fruit and veg, knit, mend our clothing even grind grains for flour and make unleavened breads. It's an odd thought that perhaps the value would be in knowledge that is thought redundant in these modern times and the people who have for whatever reason kept those skills alive and taught others as well rather than the ability to keep an automated assembly line going or work an electric device to make consumer goods. So thank heavens for them all including the steam train buffs!!!

GreyQueen

I can work a pole lathe (in a rough and ready manner) so can possibly call myself a bodger.

There are quite a few old-style skills floating about but they are not presently evenly distributed; some people will have several, even dozens, and some will have a couple and some will have none.

But people can always learn. Necessity is a great motivator, after all. All you need is an example, and the will to experiment, and off you go.

My allotment site hosted farmsteads in the Early Neolithic (10,200 to approx 4,500-2,000 BC). The soil must have reverted to that level because we're constantly turning up their flint tools. I find flint blades, lots of little scraper-type thingummies and even something which I am sure is meant to be a bradawl.

Thing is, they still work. The sharp edges are still sharp and the pointy bits still pierce things. Great fun to turn them up amidst the horseshoe nails, bits of glass and random fragments of crockery.

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moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Okays - now you gotta explain what a Grandfather Paradox is please :rotfl:

The grandfather paradox goes like this.

You travel into the past, where you kill your grandfather, before he meets your grandmother. As a result, your father is never born, which means you aren't.

However (and this is where I was messing with you ), if you are never born, you can't travel into the past, to kill your grandfather, hence you will be born, allowing you to travel back in time, to kill your grandfather and so on, ad infinitum.

moneyistooshorttomention

Now you just know there has to be a name for the syndrome of "If I never got born in the first place this time round = well I don't have a problem anyway, as I'm still floating around someplace "on Cloud 9" instead = no big deal:T:rotfl:".

Now what was that recent film with Neo in and the "Shouldn't have taken the red pill"? LOL -...ah...yep..The Matrix.