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Frugalsod wrote: »

How many of you have made provision for storing your pets during a SHTF situation? Here is a possible solution.

http://i.imgur.com/wGFYgwm.gifv

Awwww! :rotfl::rotfl:

GreyQueen

Frugalsod wrote: »

How many of you have made provision for storing your pets during a SHTF situation? Here is a possible solution.

http://i.imgur.com/wGFYgwm.gifv

So cute, but I'm getting a bit seasick from watching it move, lol.

ivyleaf

Thanks for the kittens Frugalsod

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There are a great many Polish people working in the south, they are respectable and good citizens whatever they do for a living they do it well and without stinting, lots of Poles have actually gone back home since the recession kicked in and we're unlucky to lose them, they're good folks.

charlies-aunt

Mrs L-W - sending loving vibes to you, Docky and He-Who-Knows x x x

greenbee

Thinking of you all Lyn.

You're right about the Poles going home. The other thing to bear in mind is how many British (English/Welsh/Scots/N. Irish/Cornish...) are living and working abroad. There's a significant British expat (note that we don't consider ourselves to be immigrants, we're expats...) community in Poland, as well as in many other countries.

I'm off to Warsaw for work next week

We tend to forget how many people from this country move abroad (I've recently visited three friends who've moved to the US for work, and will be catching up with another when I'm there for work next month, as well as one in Canada as I'll also be working there). So that's 5 of my friends, and just in North America.

nuatha

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

This may not be everyones view but I think the majority of the migrants who have come to this country are what is keeping us going in the main. I may be out of touch, I may live in a part of the country that is still lucky enough to have jobs and is relatively affluent and prosperous but the eastern europeans who get the backlash of everyones anger are the people who are doing the jobs that our younger generations feel are too menial to be done by themselves.

I live in a part of the country that's far from affluent (though there are wealthy areas) in general unemployment is high and most of the jobs that are available seem to be minimum wage and minimal hours. Yet I share your point of view.
Apart from the net contribution to the economy - without which we'd be in a greater mess - I'm currently spending a lot of time in hospitals, they are largely being staffed by immigrants, (alongside care homes) from cleaners to care assistants to nurses and doctors.

greenbee

That's a good point about the hospitals nuatha. I'm off to hospital again for a check-up tomorrow, and I know that most of the nursing staff (who recognise me, which I don't consider to be a good thing) are from the Philippines. I'm extremely grateful to them for moving halfway across the world, to a very different culture, to provide the care I need.

nuatha

armyknife wrote: »

Would it bother you much if they came from Denmark,The Netherlands or France?

Obviously I'm not who you were asking the question - to me it makes no difference what nationality, race or religion. Today I've had dealings with Filipino, Latvian, Iraqi and South African immigrants, and am pleased to have done so. Without fail they've been good at their job, polite and professional.

I grew up in an ex-mining village, with a number of Polish families. Some settled in the aftermath of WWII, some from before and one immigrated around 1970. they were all good folk and my life is richer from knowing them.

One of my neighbours used to moan about the foreign doctors and nurses that were taking his jobs, not that he was qualified to do either or prepared to get the qualifications.

I've always regarded a good work ethic and the ability to adapt existing skills alongside a willingness to learn as being core preps for living. Combine that with an ability to get on with people from different backgrounds and cultures and you are far more likely to thrive than just survive.

Perplexed_Pineapple

Interesting discussion. Many of my friends come from different cultures and my OH was not born in the UK. I heard something on the radio, we had a lot of Polish immigration around the time of WW2 and the children of those immigrants, with Polish names and brought up speaking Polish at home but English at school think of themselves as "English Polish" and the recent immigrants as "Polish Polish". Broadly speaking I think that immigration has been a positive thing for the UK, and problems with local concentrations of immigration putting pressures on health and education services are a great nuisance, but also a temporary problem. There is though a difference between immigration from different parts of the world. The culture in the UK is mostly Christian and European in origin, even if most of the population are now secular. Immigrants from countries with a similar background assimilate relatively rapidly I think. Immigrants from very different backgrounds take longer, understandably, and while this is not a problem in limited numbers, in large numbers this influences the culture they have come to live in. Immigrants with very different ideas of democracy and religious freedom are a threat to a way of life that has evolved in Britain over centuries of political dispute and sometime bloody civil and religious wars, and while change is part of life, I do not find this a good thing. For this reason I am sympathetic to the stated aims of the "kippers" - I think it is unlikely that we will be able to control our borders while part of the EU. We may find that the EU disintegrates without positive action on our part anyway, the Spanish and Italians will be keeping a close eye on what happens in Greece and if the Eurozone implodes it would be the impetus for renogiation of the entire system I expect. There are a lot of snouts in troughs in Brussels with an interest in making it work though, so expect fudges and compromises to the bitter end with a lot of austerity pain for southern Europe along the way. 2Tonsils, an update would be good if you are still around