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  • the_cake
    the_cake Posts: 668 Forumite
    Hugs from me too to Mrs LW, Docky, and He Who Knows, xxxx
  • thriftwizard
    thriftwizard Posts: 4,868 Forumite
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    I'm not a great fan of the paper that OH chooses to have delivered - although it does fit onto the chickens' droppings board & the bottom of the cockatiels' cage nicely - but has anyone else spotted these little gems?

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  • Blue_Doggy
    Blue_Doggy Posts: 860 Forumite
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    Mrs LW Best wishes to you and Docky for a good outcome.
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  • Thanks guys, you're such comfort at times like these, much appreciated and helps immensely. No more damage overnight, the lad slept in his cone and vet at 11.30 this morning with the senior partener who knows him best. Patch of open wound has granulated and I'm hopeful if we keep him 'coned' the skin might renew and seal it. He needs more by way of pain killers I think so big discussion time today, bless each and every one of you for being there when I need you, heartfelt thank yous to all of you, Lyn xxx.
  • Cheapskate
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    Hi Lyn, so sorry to hear worrying news about poor Docky, big hugs to you and Him Indoors, and a slurp to Docky. I'm sure you know that the community here will hold your hands when the time comes.

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  • Vets are very comforting people, Docky has an added strong pain killer in his daily regieme and the vet described how the pain will be feeling and explained why Docky just goes in furiously with a scratching foot. The tumour is MUCH bigger since our last visit and the vet isn't a magician so his advice is to take this one day at a time from here on in and to realise when Docky isn't coping and his quality of life has deteriorated, the vet will then come to the house and help the lad out of his pain. We have 3 weeks worth of pain killers and he thinks that might be enough BUT today is OK and my boy is out on the lawn in the sunshine with his Dad and is fast asleep dreaming of chasing bunnies, can't be bad can it?
  • Karmacat
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    That's good advice from your vet... a sensitive giving of information and showing the options available, that's good.
    Dreaming of bunnies is lovely :)
    Thanks for the fast update.
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  • Frugalsod
    Frugalsod Posts: 2,966 Forumite
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    I'm not a great fan of the paper that OH chooses to have delivered - although it does fit onto the chickens' droppings board & the bottom of the cockatiels' cage nicely - but has anyone else spotted these little gems?

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    There are a number of issues here.

    First while government debt is significantly up on the levels of 2008 so is private debt around the world. The private debt aspect is not being addressed by any nation so it will end badly.

    Global trade is close to a recession levels and that has only ever happened before during oil crises and the global financial crisis. So for trade to plummet now is a sign that private debts are becoming a problem. What it does highlight is that the hundreds of billions of pounds that our government has given our banks to rescue them has failed to repair the economy. It was never going to work because private debts were already a problem, and so they would be unable to borrow even if they wanted to the banks new terms would mean few would qualify for a loan.

    The ageing demographics will be worst in countries that have lost a lot of their younger workers such as Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain and the Baltic nations. They lost their younger workers to other nations and temporarily this has boosted countries like Germany and UK this may not continue.

    As to what will happen in Greece depends on whether the EU decide to be idiots. At the moment they are paranoid about other countries throwing out the mainstream political parties. In Spain the two main parties who have dominated Spanish politics since the death of Franco are suffering in the polls. So they are trying to make an example of Greece to protect their own positions at home. Even here in the UK we have seen Labour wiped out in Scotland and both Labour and Conservatives lost support to other parties in England. Mainstream parties across Europe are in trouble and I wonder if they know it.

    What most politicians do not appreciate is that their electorates are angry with them. The public know how weak each of their countries are in comparison to what they used to be, and if Greece is forced to impose capital controls it will cause a panic in other countries as they will see how vulnerable their banks are. So contagion is guaranteed, no matter what TPTB say. Spain has been having a silent bank run for several years now. Even the UK has had a silent bank run for the last few months as some £350 Billion has been withdrawn out of our banks.

    Also the dismissal of Greece as an irrelevance is a sign of incompetence at the highest levels. While Greece is a small fraction of the EU it is not only its size that they should be concerned about.
    The €180 Billion that the Greek government is owed to mainly France and Germany. If Greece were to default Germany who has the bulk of the debt would suddenly find its deficit soaring, and it would have to have significant spending cuts to bring its own fiscal account bank into balance. That would cause a recession in both France and Germany and mean their economies would be in trouble.

    If Greece exits and has to impose capital controls as its citizens are bailed in then do you think that the citizens of Italy, Spain, Ireland or France will sit still and do nothing as their banks are still in trouble. Imagine you saw a line of customers outside your bank as it opened. Would you take the chance that what little money you had would be swallowed up in a bail in? They might start to move their money offshore to some other nation possibly within the Eurozone or outside to a country like Switzerland.

    In addition it will end the fantasy that Eurozone membership is permanent. Secondly if capital controls are introduced it will write that country off as an export market for years until the finances are repaired. Now think what would happen if a dozen countries in the EU had to impose capital controls to survive. Who would we export to?

    Remember that this is still a banking crisis. One that has not been fixed and will still take us all down with it.
    It's really easy to default to cynicism these days, since you are almost always certain to be right.
  • mardatha
    mardatha Posts: 15,612 Forumite
    Sending loving vibes to you and to your wee pal MrsL xxx
  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 26 May 2015 at 6:56PM
    Frugalsod - you've got me more intrigued by the minute (or by the post) as to who you are ITRW - with your totally calm clear analysis of how you think things are...

    I think personally that you are spot on re politicians not appreciating just how angry many of the electorate are with them.

    I certainly sit here as someone who is a former Labour Party activist and I am absolutely furious/livid with them that they just don't seem to have clicked that just because someone is basically pretty socialist in their inclinations doesn't mean they are willing to take on board the "Open our borders to all comers" stance that so many of the LP elite seem to take. Nope - we are just pretty socialist and that is where it finishes. So what the **** has socialism got to do with an "Open borders" stance then? Answer = absolutely nothing and total fury the LP elite don't seem to realise that is the case.

    They brought about their demise. Their actions and their actions alone caused what happened to them (oh...not to forget adding in a certain war they should not have waged - but wouldn't listen to us). Hello - newsflash time - some of us actually do believe Britain is supposed to be a democracy (yep...naïve of us maybe....but that's what we were told as we grew up - and we believed it). So = yep....and they have put many of us in a "kill cheerfully as soon as look at them" attitude towards them....darn it...

    Cue absolute total fury BIG TIME and total determination to punish them and get them back to socialism/pure socialism and only socialism and stop us longing to give them one huge collective slap right across their faces and so set on punishing them for it that we would even take a Conservative Government if we have to (temporarily) to get that message home to them.

    Yep. = Tony Bliar onwards is someone many of us would like to kick straight where it would hurt most. Every time I read about another ISIS atrocity I would just love to put Bliar right in the centre of what he and he alone is responsible for creating a good seedbed for...

    Now if the Labour Party were to get back to socialism and socialism only - and be rather more aware about our environment on the other hand.......it might be a very different story.

    But I don't see it happening I'm afraid....:(...so its back on with the hobnailed boots and what part of their collective political anatomy can we kick hardest and fastest?:(:(:(

    But I have no faith whatsoever that the Labour Party will listen to us and "get back to their roots"...:cool:
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