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  • jk0
    jk0 Posts: 3,479 Forumite
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    Anyone seen this powerful post by Chris Martenson?

    Also, you might be interested in reply #43 which has a scarey vision of the future as imagined by Jim Rickards, (author of Currency Wars, and The Death of Money.)

    http://www.peakprosperity.com/comment/172386#comment-172386
  • GreyQueen
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    :( Scary. The most frightening things are always the ones which are plausible, aren't they?

    A few days ago, I was in my local Tosspots store, one of the small ones. It has a mixture of staffed checkouts and automated checkouts. Which I hate with a passion, btw.

    Observing my fellow shoppers was instructive. The auto tills are situated in the middle of a row of staffed tills. So why, when there was either no one waiting at the staffed tills, or only one person being served, was there a line of about 12 people waiting for an auto till to come free? They would have had to move their eyes about 20 degrees to left or right to see that they could whizz through a staffed till in no time.

    Yet they stood there like fools. All of them were in their late teens or early twenties. Are they frightened of the till staff? Can't imagine why, they're lovely peeps to a man and woman. I put it down to effective social conditioning; they have been trained that the auto till is faster and more efficient than the staffed till, so stick with that. Even though I and others come up from behind them, move smoothly through the manned till and are exiting the shop whilst they are still waiting to interact with a machine.

    I see this kind of conditioning at pedestrian crossings. There are places here where you can see 60-100 yards in either direction, the road is empty of all traffic, and folk stand there in a clump waiting for the 'green man' to light up so it's safe to cross. Or until some anarchist like me walks up, makes a fractional second calculation of the velocity of absent cars vs the time to walk across the junction and just walks it. Whereupon they will follow...............

    This kind of unthinkingness is what will get us into a lot of trouble. We need to keep as much control as possible over our own affairs. And this means money. So, you need to have cash and use cash, and not think of it as something inconvenient. Because otherwise every single thing you do with money, every place you go, everything you own, will be recorded somewhere, just waiting to be used against you.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
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  • I'm all for the anonymity that paying cash gives me. Yes the bank know that I've taken out my weekly housekeeping sum but hopefully from then on it's invisible as I refuse to use or be bullied into taking any 'loyalty' cards. The only card I use is my W8rose members card and that's to get my free cup of coffee when I shop there (which is at a time I know they are making substantial reductions). I hate it when I go into Bon Marche. Debenhams and British Home Stores who all, particularly forcefully in the case of the first one, push very hard to get me to take their store cards and usually are prepared to argue the point when I equally forcefully decline the offer. I hate being traced through my purchases to the point of loathing, what I buy is my own business not to be recorded so that shops can then target me with offers and coupons(Tesco!!!) for expensive and unnecessary items. Cash is my friend!!!
  • Nargleblast
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    One of our area hospital's ideas of protective clothing against Ebola....

    Two pairs of standard hospital issue gloves
    A gown the thickness of a good quality supermarket carrier bag, one size fits nobody
    A cardboard mask covering nose, mouth and chin
    A plastic visor covering the front and sides of the face.

    The top of the head, areas of the neck and throat, and everywhere below the knees is exposed. The relationship between the gown and gloves is such that the gown can potentially ride up and expose forearm.

    Once again, despite seeing full body suits etc on TV, our NHS management are opting for cheap and nasty to save money.


    Apparently Ebola precautions are constantly "under review".
    So that's all right, then.......
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  • RAS
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    Gawd Nargleblast.

    I had to do a bit of research when the first E advice was circulated at Easter because I did not know the kit (we are not a health care provider so this was really aimed that those who encountered someone unwell in the course of their normal duties.

    The list above might be acceptable for the non-infective "at risk" cases.

    1. Has been in a high risk country and has a high temperature but otherwise no symptoms.

    2. Has been in close contact with a person suspected of having Ebola but otherwise no symptoms.

    provided no contact is made with body fluids which I read as meaning not suitable if drawing blood.

    If they exhibit any other symptoms the advice was full body cover (non-permeable), full mask, and preferably a respirator. If I remember rightly it recommended "gauntlets."

    So it was pretty much if they have symptoms do not touch - get in the specialists with proper equipment.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • mardatha
    mardatha Posts: 15,612 Forumite
    Nargleblastb- "under review" means we'll get something better if somebody catches it..
  • MrsL............ I am of the same mind set, I no longer use loyalty cards and I only use cash whenever I can. I don't trust the corporates, bankers or the government
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  • One of our area hospital's ideas of protective clothing against Ebola....

    Two pairs of standard hospital issue gloves
    A gown the thickness of a good quality supermarket carrier bag, one size fits nobody
    A cardboard mask covering nose, mouth and chin
    A plastic visor covering the front and sides of the face.

    The top of the head, areas of the neck and throat, and everywhere below the knees is exposed. The relationship between the gown and gloves is such that the gown can potentially ride up and expose forearm.

    Once again, despite seeing full body suits etc on TV, our NHS management are opting for cheap and nasty to save money.


    Apparently Ebola precautions are constantly "under review".
    So that's all right, then.......

    Now,that's scary...

    Mardatha I agree with your comment.How depressing.

    I've not really advanced much with my prep plans.I've spent the morning sorting through my kitchens,as there is so much clutter and many items that are left unused.
    Now I have three large and two small shelves freed up,meaning that I can use them to put a lot of my storecupboard items,that are currently in my cellar space.That'll free up space for other things down there.
  • Frugalsod
    Frugalsod Posts: 2,966 Forumite
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    mardatha wrote: »
    Nargleblastb- "under review" means we'll get something better if somebody catches it..

    Correction. We will only change it if a hospital administrator gets infected.
    It's really easy to default to cynicism these days, since you are almost always certain to be right.
  • calicocat
    calicocat Posts: 5,698 Forumite
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    My preps today are going off to Ikea for candles and tealights, and will see if I can find the solar lamps.

    I believe they do preserving jars too...so may get some of those and make some cherry brandy for xmas....:T
    Yep...still at it, working out how to retire early.:D....... Going to have to rethink that scenario as have been screwed over by the company. A work in progress.
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