Preparedness for when

mardatha

I got mine a few days ago kittie, i love the smell of carbolic and the RV likes the Sunlight. They ship fast.

Nargleblast

Fingers crossed it looks like spammer has been frittered. Well done all those who used their spam button today!

Butterfly_Brain

This is a shocking report :eek::eek::eek:
Is this what we face once TTIP is signed ?:mad:

After years of sweeping the issue under the rug and hoping no one would notice, the FDA has now finally admitted that chicken meat sold in the USA contains arsenic, a cancer-causing toxic chemical that’s fatal in high doses. But the real story is where this arsenic comes from: It’s added to the chicken feed purposely!
Even worse, the FDA says its own research shows that the arsenic added to the chicken feed ends up in the chicken meat where it is consumed by humans. So for the last sixty years, American consumers who eat conventional chicken have been consuming arsenic, a known cancer-causing chemical.

Until this new study, both the poultry industry and the FDA denied that arsenic fed to chickens ended up in their meat. The fairy-tale excuse story we’ve all been fed for sixty years is that “the arsenic is excreted in the chicken feces.” There’s no scientific basis for making such a claim, it’s simply what the poultry industry wanted everybody to believe.

Now the evidence is so undeniable that the manufacturer of the chicken feed product known as Roxarsone has decided to pull the product off the shelves. Interestingly enough, the manufacturer that has been putting arsenic in the chicken feed for all these years is Pfizer — the very same company that makes vaccines containing chemical adjuvants that are injected into children.

Technically, the company making the Roxarsone chicken feed is a subsidiary of Pfizer, called Alpharma LLC. Even though Alpharma now has agreed to pull this toxic feed chemical off the shelves in the United States, it says it won’t necessarily remove it from feed products in other countries unless it is forced by regulators to do so. As reported by AP:

“Scott Brown of Pfizer Animal Health’s Veterinary Medicine Research and Development division said the company also sells the ingredient in about a dozen other countries. He said Pfizer is reaching out to regulatory authorities in those countries and will decide whether to sell it on an individual basis.”

But even as its arsenic-containing product is pulled off the shelves, the FDA continues its campaign of denial, claiming arsenic in chickens is at such a low level that it’s still safe to eat. This is even as the FDA says arsenic is a carcinogen, meaning it increases the risk of cancer.

The National Chicken Council agrees with the FDA. In a statement issued in response to the news that Roxarsone would be pulled from feed store shelves, it stated, “Chicken is safe to eat” even while admitting arsenic was used in many flocks grown and sold as chicken meat in the United States.

What’s astonishing about all this is that the FDA tells consumers it’s safe to eat cancer-causing arsenic but it’s dangerous to drink elderberry juice! The FDA recently conducted an armed raid in an elderberry juice manufacturer, accusing them of the “crime” of selling “unapproved drugs.” Which drugs would those be? The elderberry juice, explains the FDA. You see, the elderberry juice suddenly becomes a “drug” if you tell people how it can help support good health.
The FDA has also gone after dozens of other companies for selling natural herbal products or nutritional products that enhance and support health. The FDA is also waging a war on raw milk which it says is dangerous. Currently in America, thee is a food and drug regulatory agency that says it’s okay to eat arsenic, but dangerous to drink elderberry juice or raw milk.

1Tonsil

well , we have finished the cleaning up after the flood we had in the storm, and have finished most of the repairs. My husband has filled in a couple of places where the rain was coming in through cracks in the outside plaster, but they won't dry due to the very damp atmosphere at the moment. I have tried drying my washing outside but that is not drying either, despite it being 23 degrees!

It has been sunny for the last few days, lets hope it lasts. Italy is taking yet another beating from the terrible storms they have had all summer.

On another note, I have just read two reports from the UK ..one from a clinic in Coventry and one from a hospital in London. Both reported people who walked in thinking they might have ebola who were made to sit and wait in public areas to see a doctor. This is scary stuff and they need to get that sorted straight away or it could spread like crazy in places like hospital waiting rooms and toilets.

I have already decided that if the Uk gets any cases I will not be travelling there . Travel on planes and through air ports seems to be far more risky than they told us initially, and no one can explain how some of the victims got it if it is not airborne.

I missed all the excitement with the spammer, but well done to everyone who hit the button to stop them!:T

ZTD

http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/13/london-hospital-in-chaos-after-ebola-patient-walks-into-casualty-4903988/

*chuckle*

jk0

GreyQueen wrote: »

Apart from candles, which aren't in routine everyday use, I'd struggle to think of anything I'd consider a prep which isn't rotated through general household use, such as foodstuffs and consumables like TP and basic toiletries. As Frugalsod said, some things are actually camping supplies, so not in use all year, but are multi-purpose.

I just have rather more by me than the average bear. I take canned and packaged food, although the majority of my diet is fresh food, from a cupboard in the kitchen where there are 2-6 examples of most things. When those 2-6 items are used, I restock from the larder, which is mostly under the bed, and then restock that from the shops, when I see a good price.

It's like having your own personal corner shop. It also means that I don't have to run out to the real shop if I run out of something, because I probably have 20-odd of them in the larder.:rotfl:

One thing I have noticed about prepping is that it makes me more aware of the quantities of various things which I use, and thus more efficient at keeping the right amount of stuff in. Plus you tend to look at use-by dates, and I buy sardines in oil rather than tomato sauce, because they have many more years' worth of dates on them.

A common-enough catastrophe is loss of employment, due to redundancy or ill-health. Even if you are entitled to social security benefits, you're probably looking at a month + before they're paid, and they're paid in arrears. Yes, hopefully your preps include money in the bank, but if you have a good storecupboard, you won't instantly have to start dipping into your cash to fund all that month's groceries.

Last week, I asked my folks to get me a 5 kg sack of wholemeal breadflour from the windmill people who come to a farmer's market they visit once a month. They have it, and I'll collect and pay for that once I'm visiting them in a few weeks' time, and by that time the current flour sack will be heading towards empty. I also keep an eye for the 3 for 2 offer on baking supplies which comes around in Tosco every few months and use the opportunity to stock up on dried yeast for breadmaking, so I never have to pay full-price.

By keeping an eye on sales cycles, you can run your household a bit more economically than you would if you waited to run out and had to buy at whatever price was being charged on the day.

Last week I wanted a bottle of cola to strip some rust off something, so got a 17p 2 litre bottle of cheapy cola from the supermarket, used it, and then washed and repurposed the bottle to store water. Same price as a bottle of basics water, but served two purposes.

One thing I would encourage you to do, and it's easier to do it from the beginning rather than run around doing it afterwards, is to keep a tally of what you have and where it is. I have a cheap A4 spiral notebook, with those post-it tags on the pages, and write the inventory in pencil so it can easily be adjusted as the contents change. HTH.

Phew, you did right to stay in GQ. It just took me an hour to drive 5 miles home.

What do you pay for those 5kg sacks of flour?

Butterfly_Brain

This man has got everything right
http://www.realfarmacy.com/news-anchor-completely-loses-it-on-air-for-the-best-possible-reasons/

Karmacat

Butterfly_Brain wrote: »

This is a shocking report :eek::eek::eek:
Is this what we face once TTIP is signed ?:mad:

After years of sweeping the issue under the rug and hoping no one would notice, the FDA has now finally admitted that chicken meat sold in the USA contains arsenic, a cancer-causing toxic chemical that’s fatal in high doses. But the real story is where this arsenic comes from: It’s added to the chicken feed purposely!
Even worse, the FDA says its own research shows that the arsenic added to the chicken feed ends up in the chicken meat where it is consumed by humans. So for the last sixty years, American consumers who eat conventional chicken have been consuming arsenic, a known cancer-causing chemical.

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The FDA has also gone after dozens of other companies for selling natural herbal products or nutritional products that enhance and support health. The FDA is also waging a war on raw milk which it says is dangerous. Currently in America, thee is a food and drug regulatory agency that says it’s okay to eat arsenic, but dangerous to drink elderberry juice or raw milk.

omigod. You know what, I always think of myself as being quite cynical about the motives of big companies. Like Martin says, their duty is to their shareholders, not their customers. But this shocks me, it really does. And the FDA is totally within their power. Just like our DEFRA is within the grasp of the multimillionaires in government ...

Thanks for bringing this one in, Butterfly.

ZTD

I did reply to this before, but the MSE spam filter screw up got it...

Frugalsod wrote: »

The bank deposit protection schemes as you said were to avoid the problems of a bank run. It worked for a long time, and did until Cyprus. Now the rules have changed and so should we in how we adapt.

Of course. If you're trying to prevent bank runs by preventing people losing money, then ensuring people lose money will ensure bank runs.

Frugalsod wrote: »

With the new bail in rules I am trying to minimise the amount I have in the bank anyway. Though since I am using any cash surpluses to actually invest in home improvements that lower my cost of living and keep some cash at home for the several weeks that the banks are closed as they empty peoples accounts of any surplus. Cyprus showed that it will be many weeks before the banks are open again and until then cash will be king.

Cash will be king anyway, even when the banks do open. Mechanisms will have to be put in place during the bank [STRIKE]holiday[/STRIKE] CPR such that transactions can occur. Otherwise nobody will be able to buy/sell things and people will become hungry and desperate.

Frugalsod wrote: »

As for segregated accounts they are protected against solicitors fiddling, but I seriously doubt that they have the resources to guarantee segregated accounts raided during a bail in.

Even brokers segregated accounts have been raided by the banks in the case of MF Financial in the US. It could happen here as well. Also segregated accounts in Cyprus were also raided, so even if you had paid the money into a segregated account to buy a home and the bank seized much of it then you would have to find more money to finalise the purchase. So segregated accounts are not really any safer.

There are two sorts of segregated accounts in play here. One is your money being segregated by the solicitor. If the solicitor uses it improperly, then that's fraud, and it is against you.

The second is that the solicitor will deposit the money with a bank in a segregated bank account. If the bank uses that money improperly, then that's fraud, and it is against the solicitor. The solicitor will still be liable to you to repay *all* the money, despite the bank having taken it (unless they change the law on possession). You did not deposit into the bank, that was the solicitor's decision. The solicitor had a duty of care for your money (which you never lost title to) which they failed in.

Do you think all the solicitors in this country would sue? :rotfl:

If you want a bit more of a laugh about how poor the US is with allocated accounts, look up the allocated silver account scandal.

Frugalsod wrote: »

Ultimately I expect that the level of protection will be lowered when the next financial crisis strikes,

Why? The level is set by the EU at €100,000 minimum. The UK can guarantee this for GBP deposits as the UK can print GBP. This option was not available for Cyprus. It would also attract more business to the UK if it was maintained and the EU dropped theirs.

Frugalsod wrote: »

but while most people will be impacted minimally it will be employers that are hit hardest. I suspect that mass redundancies will follow as companies are unable to pay wages.

There will be a bit more imagination than that. That's one of the troubles with doing this sort of thing. Once people learn to cope without bank transactions, why would they go back? The convenience goes out the window, and the trust won't come back for 2-3 generations.

Frugalsod wrote: »

That is why I am cutting my living expenses to the point that if there were changes to my life and I had to live on unemployment benefits then the impact will be minimal. Cyprus showed us how things will be done.

Don't take Cyprus too much to heart. Perhaps the Argentinian coralito is a better model, but even it is imperfect.

ZTD

GreyQueen wrote: »

I find myself generally not liking the way things are going in the global west, as various grubbyments work really hard to steer us into accepting gross impositions on our rights and freedoms in the so-called fight against terrorism. That'll be those people funded by the Americans for donkey's years then, like the T@liban.

It will get worse before it gets better. Though this is the right stage in the cycle for it to get better. It will all end in tanks as they say...

GreyQueen wrote: »

The biggest danger to most of us is cardiovascular disease and cancer, frankly. With alcoholism and road traffic accidents a not inconsiderable risk. Part of my block of flats blew up one night; not a terrorist in sight, just a blinking drunken idiot faffing with the gas. Still demolished several flats and it's a wonder no one died.

I thought they'd banned gas from highrises since the "domino flats" of the 60's?