Preparedness for when

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I keep disposable lighters in a sealed glass jar, I keep matches in a sealed metal tin and I keep lamp oil, paraffin,meths in the garden shed as far from the house as I can. I do however have the big camping gaz cannister in the storeroom along with the single burner to screw on to it.

BettiePage

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2789194/stock-drinking-water-don-t-answer-door-neighbours-ebola-outbreak-advice-issued-families-sales-home-infection-control-kits-soar.html

Stocking up on drinking water and avoiding all human contact are among steps that will have to be taken to avoid an Ebola epidemic, survivalists have warned.
To avoid contracting the deadly virus people will have to barricade themselves in their homes if the infection spreads, they say.
Their advice comes as sales of protective clothing and home infection control kits rise with an increasing number of people fearing the worst.

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kezlou wrote: »

Hurricane lanterns on sale in wilkos.

Could you link to them, on their website please?

siegemode

Anyone else seen this ?

http://rt.com/business/195052-us-uk-simulation-bank-collapse/

moneyistooshorttomention

ZTD wrote: »

There is also the small matter of:

46 Hearsay evidence

(1)Evidence must not be excluded in restraint proceedings on the ground that it is hearsay (of whatever degree).

(2)Sections 2 to 4 of the Civil Evidence Act 1995 (c. 38) apply in relation to restraint proceedings as those sections apply in relation to civil proceedings.

(3)Restraint proceedings are proceedings—

(a)for a restraint order;

(b)for the discharge or variation of a restraint order;

(c)on an appeal under section 43 or 44.

(4)Hearsay is a statement which is made otherwise than by a person while giving oral evidence in the proceedings and which is tendered as evidence of the matters stated.

(5)Nothing in this section affects the admissibility of evidence which is admissible apart from this section.

Which means that someone saying "I heard that she was living the life of Reilly" would be admissible and taken into consideration as evidence that she was living a criminal lifestyle and therefore should have all (not just money) her assets seized.

Crikey...then it makes you wonder if we've not moved on that far from the Burning Times. That being, when loads of perfectly innocent women got reported to the "authorities" by a malicious neighbour who just didn't happen to like them and that was them up for burning at the stake then.

Hopefully, there are some "checks and balances" to prevent malicious tykes just coming out with "leading life of Reilly" type comments and ensure MT's are "put back in their box"??

moneyistooshorttomention

ZTD wrote: »

How many "mis-selling" scandals have there been now? I can't even remember what the first one was - endowment mortgages perhaps?

A seizure of assets in the beginning for the first scandal would have ensured that number of scandals never rose above "1".

The endowment mortgages one is the first one I can recall In Our Time. That was basically the 1980s wasn't it? I remember people trying to assert endowment mortgages were A Good Thing back at the time I took out a mortgage to buy my first house. I was too cynical to believe this personally and took out a repayment mortgage:):T, but I've got friends in my agegroup and a bit older who got caught by that one and lost thousands of £s.

GreyQueen

Morning all.

Interesting stuff going on with the sudden increase in bank deposit cover in event of a crisis and TBTF banking-collapse trials. When I read about the first one last week, I thought to myself, here it comes. When I read about the second today, I'm convinced the beggars are up to something.

I also fear Ebola is already incubating in the UK. To me, bearing in mind how many people come in and out of this country, or transit it as a major airline hub, it beggars belief that we won't get it here before much longer.

Not comfortable thoughts, but reality is frequently uncomfortable, which is why escapism is always so popular.

I will continue to prep quietly and discreetly and hope that the worst doesn't come to the worst, after all.

Have been busy doing this thing called RL, hanging with friends and gardening. Have dug up the most un-identifiable chunk of metal to date, which have decribed to my Dad and seems to be something off a tractor or other piece of agri-equipment. I shall save it to show him sometime.

Am currently breaking up a small section of grassy pathway which hasn't been dug up by me since the start of the allotment tenancy and am adding substantially to my collection of nails and glass as well as chunks of metal. Still no treasure chests, alas.

I'd read about Operation Rize before, shocking example of the Police and the judiciary co-operating in something fundamentally wrong in so many ways. And Joe Taxpayer gets to pick up the tab? Excuse me, but I think first principles would be the confiscation of all the wealth and property of the judge and the senior officers concerned.

Basic principles of law are being overturned in many parts of the so-called democratic west. Grubbyments don't like cash, they don't like portable valuables like gems, jewellery and precious metals, they don't like the rest of us to have things which can be moved about under the radar. It's about controlling everybody, not just about fighting crime.

Trouble is, when TSHTF, it's those portable valuables which have enabled people to flee and make fresh starts. Ach well, if they're agin' it, all the more reason to do it, I reckon.

ZTD

siegemode wrote: »

Anyone else seen this ?

http://rt.com/business/195052-us-uk-simulation-bank-collapse/

Next week’s simulation, the results of which are expected to be released to the public, is designed to reassure the taxpayers in both UK and the US that their money will not be misused next time when a large financial institution turns out to be not that big to fail.

If I run a vulnerability test, it is *not* designed to reassure. It is designed to provoke a lot of scrambling around to fix things and not a little brown trousering.

The test is fluff. Marketing. They've been done in the past for exactly the same reasons. Banks have failed in the past just weeks after passing a stress test - Lehman Bros being the one that comes to mind.

Reassuring tests are not tests.

ZTD

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Crikey...then it makes you wonder if we've not moved on that far from the Burning Times. That being, when loads of perfectly innocent women got reported to the "authorities" by a malicious neighbour who just didn't happen to like them and that was them up for burning at the stake then.

Hopefully, there are some "checks and balances" to prevent malicious tykes just coming out with "leading life of Reilly" type comments and ensure MT's are "put back in their box"??

Yes, you go to Court...

..while paying your barristers fresh-air as all your money and assets have been seized...

GreyQueen

ZTD wrote: »

If I run a vulnerability test, it is *not* designed to reassure. It is designed to provoke a lot of scrambling around to fix things and not a little brown trousering.

The test is fluff. Marketing. They've been done in the past for exactly the same reasons. Banks have failed in the past just weeks after passing a stress test - Lehman Bros being the one that comes to mind.

Reassuring tests are not tests.

Too right. If it's possible without compromising your privacy, would you be able to tell us a little about the kind of systems you test, please?

If you were to test vulnerabilities in most systems, the response would by a series of expletives and a lot of nervous bladders and bowels. As it should be - back-patting gets nowhere, recognising problems and working up resilience to them does.

The other year, phones at my local authority call centre starting ringing off the hook as people rang in to report that their water was off. People always do this, ditto in powercuts, so we quickly know what is going on. We tracked the areas going off-supply by the postcodes of callers. Half the city was off in minutes.

I spoke to the water company. They had only become aware that there was a problem WHEN THE PUBLIC RANG THEM. Digest that a moment, if you will; there was no monitoring of supply which flagged up the fault, it was the customer going to the sink and finding nowt coming out of the taps. When I spoke to the water company in the first instance, they didn't know where the fault was, thought it was a water tower. It turned out to be a failed pump. Which took down the water supply to circa 50,000 homes with no warning.

All credit due, and they got it working again within 2 hours, but they didn't know they had a problem until the public told them, and there was a delay in finding the source before they could even start fixing it.

Imagine if that electrical pump had no electicity supply. Imagine if the engineers were sick or snowed-in, or couldn't reach the pump due to civil unrest. Imagine both the mobile phone networks and terrestrial phones unavailable to communicate both the fault and co-ordinate the response.

Scary, huh? Which is why I store a lot of water. You'd die for want of water in days, but before that you'd endure mental impairment from lack of water, you may be tempted to drink impure water and get sick. You may develop vomiting and diahhreal illnesses which debilitate you and pass infections around your family and even community.

Today, I have purchased another 2 x 2li bottles of water to add to my cache in the allotment shed. They can sit quietly up there in the big lidded crate, minding their own business. At 17p per bottle, I consider it an excellent way to buy a little peace of mind and to know that if my home supply of bottled water is compromised, I have some more as a Plan B.

Of course, both might be lost, but we have to work with what we have, don't we?

Righty, off now to do some gardening and to add the water bottles discreetly to the cache. Always buy in small unremarkable amounts and don't think for a moment that you will be able to stock up on bottled water once TSHTF; it'll all be gone in minutes.