Preparedness for when

GreyQueen

I think we will be looking at more coalition politics. And I think Ukip will be one side of it. Don't think the Libs are going to be in the picture this time. I've know decent lifelong Libbies who have been disgusted beyond belief by being taken into Tory coalition. I don't trust their leadership, they've been too ready to prostitute themselves to the highest bidder for to get into power for a long time.

danih, preps can go almost anywhere. What you need to consider is that a coolish, dryish, constant temperature is a lot better for foodstuffs than too hot/ too cold/ fluctuations of same. Or damp. Also, with dried goods and flour, and anything which can be chewed through (i.e. anything not in glass or metal) mice can be a problem. And they can also eat candles. I've known them to chew through very heavy duty plastic containers to eat random stuff inside like curry powder.:(

Sooo, if you have a loft, limit preps up there to paper goods. You could look at understair cupboard, under beds, base of wardrobes, under tables with long clothes, in decorative storage baskets/ boxes. Inside suitcases stored between holidays, under tables with long cloths on them. You can ease furniture like sofas slightly away from the walls and stack stuff there. A row of small tins (or candles) behind books on a shelf. Adding an additonal very high shelf into cupboards. Blanket chests and ottomans.

If you looked around my home, you'd only see normal quantities of stuff like food in the places you'd expect to see them. If you went poking into strange corners, you'd find a quite abnormal amount of stuff.

I know exactly what I have and exactly where it is, logged in a notebook.

I'd be tempted to mix up your storage a bit, in case that section of your supplies gets compromised by damage from the elements, or nicked by agencies of the state or looters. Not comfortable to think about this, but it has happened before and could happen again. HTH.

jk0

Regarding paper goods, try not to put them anywhere the least bit damp. I had some tissues stored in a kitchen cupboard on an outside wall. They look fine, but smell of mould now.

moneyistooshorttomention

Frugalsod wrote: »

Yes but an average salary scheme puts paid to boosting the pension at the expense of all the other workers in the scheme who would effectively be subsidising those who get a big boost at the end of their careers.

Average salary schemes are fairer all round.

Which I tend to feel is a valid point.

The thing is that pensions being based on the last year or two did tend to have a bit of a side-effect of people getting promotion "by coincidence" for just that last year or two of their career. All well and good if your face fitted and you duly got that promotion and were able to have your pension based on a higher salary than you had really been earning (ie for a large chunk of your worklife).

If your face didn't fit so somehow your end-of-life promotion didn't happen then....

On the other hand if ill health came along and resulted in earning less money than normal come that last couple of years or so, then your pension got based on less than you had "really" been earning on the whole.

jk0

I agree regarding the 'did your face fit' problem. I don't think my face fit.

At my workplace, I worked there for 9.5 years so I will receive I believe nine-eightieths of my final salary when I hit 60.

A colleague started about four years after me, but was off work with back trouble for months on end. She was employed for five years, but only attended for about one year in total. Once she hit 50, she took early retirement on health grounds.

In view of the health grounds her 'service' was doubled to ten years, and she was able to start getting her pension at 50. !!!!!!!

daz378

im not particularly for any party ....but without the liberals .... the tories wouldnt have have raised the tax threshhold to 10k for us little people...hence blunting effect(although they are more than happy to take credit for it). i expect the prevailing prepper attitude to politics...... is that your to a large extent on your own

fuddle

The thought of politics like this until May makes me shudder. In my opinion the NHS is the big one and I can't help feel like we need labour back in to just protect that. Even that caused a rift between the 'have's and have nots' as the doctors back then opposed the whole idea of NHS as they were scared they would lose money from private patients. Although it was a later labour government that introduced payment for certain medical treatments at least NHS has been, in my opinion, a beacon for how we treat our most vulnerable in society and I believe you can only judge a country on how well it looks after it's vulnerable.

We're falling to bits and why? Under funded and over stretched in my opinion. Yes there are many causes of this mess but ultimately I feel it's about shortages. A few weeks back I called and ambulance for a lady who was drooling, mouth had slanted and was slurrring her words. I had an inkling and it was later confirmed that she was having a series of mini strokes. I thought I was doing the very best for that lady until she got home and told me how she was lay robed on a bed in the corridor and in 8 hours not offered a drink. When she asked she was told to wait for her son to arrive because thy had no staff to get it for her and certainly no staff to take her to the toilet. If that happens again I have to get that same emergency care but by god my conscience will be burdened

This is grass roots care that we are unable to provide at the moment. It's very sad and very worrying.

Butterfly_Brain

Mojisola wrote: »

This guy was storing 13 million gallons!

On his own property

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I think the NHS would be better if it was not run like a business with hospitals competing for 'custom' and that we should look very carefully at the management structures within health trusts to see just how much money is being paid to middle men rather than it actually getting to the chalk face of medicine where it is sorely needed. If I'm ill I want fixing as quickly as I can be fixed by a well qualified and experienced doctor as locally as possible to where I live. I don't want to go to a comparison site to see how well the consultant in the next hospital over is doing compared to mine, action and quickly is what I want!!!

Mojisola

Butterfly_Brain wrote: »

On his own property

Still smacks of hoarding rather than "collecting rainwater".

GreyQueen

daz378 wrote: »

im not particularly for any party ....but without the liberals .... the tories wouldnt have have raised the tax threshhold to 10k for us little people...hence blunting effect(although they are more than happy to take credit for it). i expect the prevailing prepper attitude to politics...... is that your to a large extent on your own

The Tories couldn't have formed a government at all without the Libs - not enough votes. Labour was trying to broker a coalition with the Libs against the Tories and the Libs were carrying on like a ditzy girl with two beaus. We have the government we have because of their choice to get into bed with the blue team. I don't think they're the friends of us little people at all.

Of course, whether a Lab-Lib coalition would have been any better than this crowd isn't something we will be able to know, since you can't trial these things IRL.

And yes, I think a prepper is by nature a contrarian, a doubter, a disbeliver in the wondrous They who will protect and save us all. A prepper is more likely to believe that the grubbyment will do the opposite of the sensible, prudent thing, given choices, and is more likely to do nothing to help and everything to hinder.

If you're prepared to consider that you and yours are probably going to have to shift for yourself in any crisis, you're a realist and may well be heading into prepperdon.

Tin hats at the ready, gents and ladyfolk?