Preparedness for when

Frugalsod

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

It's being able to do it, without resort to the courts, which I object to.

In effect, they will become Judge, Jury and executioner, which is rather worrying, given the number of mistakes they make.

BTW. has anyone else noticed, that this proposal has been made, just after the ISA limit was increased (from just over £5,000) to £15,000?

I do think that they were using this as a last resort. The problem is that there are many people who will fiddle their taxes regardless. If the government targeted those that are already dodge their taxes then the deficit could be eliminated. Though this does not fit in with their ideology to slash the state, so they are cutting the safety net to avoid having to tax their backers.

If this required a court order it would also open up the possibility to seize your home, and bankrupt you.

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Frugalsod wrote: »

I do think that they were using this as a last resort.

So do it through the courts.

I see this as no different, to me breaking into the home of someone who owes me money, and taking what I'm owed, instead of suing them for it.

I wouldn't be allowed to circumvent due process, so why should HMRC be allowed to?

If this required a court order it would also open up the possibility to seize your home, and bankrupt you.

If someone is unwilling (as opposed to being unable) to pay what they owe, then why not seize their home/bankrupt them?

nuatha

Frugalsod wrote: »

I do think that they were using this as a last resort. The problem is that there are many people who will fiddle their taxes regardless. If the government targeted those that are already dodge their taxes then the deficit could be eliminated. Though this does not fit in with their ideology to slash the state, so they are cutting the safety net to avoid having to tax their backers.

If this required a court order it would also open up the possibility to seize your home, and bankrupt you.

They already have the right to go to court and seize all your assets, in fact they have the right to get a court order to freeze your assets while they try to prove a case against you in court.
This isn't targetted at major tax dodgers - back in May, HMRC were saying the average amounts owed were £5,800.

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

So do it through the courts.

I see this as no different, to me breaking into the home of someone who owes me money, and taking what I'm owed, instead of suing them for it.

I wouldn't be allowed to circumvent due process, so why should HMRC be allowed to?



If someone is unwilling (as opposed to being unable) to pay what they owe, then why not seize their home/bankrupt them?

Agreed.
HMRC already have wide sweeping powers, including the right of entry and search without needing a court warrant. If the current paperwork chain before court action is too cumbersom, perhaps they should look at their current procedures and streamline those.

ivyleaf

Which Sunday paper was it that said people were panic buying, Lyn? I can't think of anything more likely to encourage people to do that very thing! I think it's downright irresponsible (Signed, Disgusted of not that far from Tunbridge Wells) :mad:

Why would a heightened state of alertness for terrorism mean folk would panic buy, in any case? Do they think we'll all be unable to leave our homes, or something?

Perhaps I'm missing something.

1Tonsil

I couldn't think of any reason people would panic buy food due to a terrorist threat, but now I have considered it, I assume it is because they think it may not be safe to go to large supermarkets and shopping malls. I never even thought of that before.

I am commenting earlier today as I may well have to unplug everything shortly. The storms I hoped would stay in Italy are definitely coming our way. Bad storms with hail, flooding and high winds, along with the risk of water spouts and tornadoes. I really hope we don't get them but the sky is getting blacker by the minute. It has cooled down a bit but it is still very humid. A nice storm would clear the air but I really hope it won't wreck our new wood shelter!I think we will get three or four days of it and my sympathies are with the tourists here....the storms can get very scary in Corfu.

We are making plans in case Russia decides to cut off our oil and petrol supplies as Greece gets most of it from them. Last time they did it to protest the sanctions we had just one day of warning and then the island had none at all. We managed by running the scooter instead of the car, but you can't do that in terrible weather. We have arranged for an early delivery of heating oil and olive wood for the fire and we have some calor gas in store for the cooker and mobile fire, just in case.

I have some food supplies in but not huge amounts. Perhaps enough for a couple of months in an emergency. The good news is we have lots of winter clothes and survival supplies. I took them out of storage and we have plenty to see us through. I do need a good pair of leather gloves though, as mine have given up the ghost during storage.

[Deleted User]

Just received my car adapter.

In the event of a power cut, I can now plug my Notebook into my Jump Starter Pack (or car lighter socket) and keep it running for hours/days.

:cool:

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I think it was in the Telegraph but I read several papers and they are now unfortunately shredded and made into paper logs drying in the polytunnel! I think the whole panic response is the first thing to happen with most of us, that Oh My God moment when you act rather than think and I can understand a reluctance to go to crowded places like shopping malls and large centres as that's where there have been bombs and problems in the past. I think people will inevitable act short term and then perhaps become more accustomed to the idea and less panicky as time goes on.

To put the terror aspect into some kind of perspective for myself I've looked at numbers and the number of ISIL members reported so far is 7,000 which may or may not be accurate, that's enough people to fill half a small football grounds seating and there are billions of us in the rest of humanity that do not belong to terrorist organisations or hold extremist views. I think that an awful lot of thier barbarity and brutal acts are maybe to make the rest of us both think that they are invincible and not to be tackled but also to make us so worried that we don't function properly because we're always looking over our shoulders to make sure they're not behind us!!! 7000 people versus the rest of the world??? Not ruddy likely!!!

cornishchick

Hi all , not posted for a while but wanted to tell you about my weekend.
On Saturday some friends and I traveled up to Bristol to ikea, well in the middle of the afternoon. The fire alarms went off, we are asked to evacuate the store, no explanation given as to why, the staff had no idea. What worried me was everyone stood right out side the store with its big glass windows moaning about having to leave , to leave their trolleys and shopping. I walked a few more hundred yards away, ensuring that I was away from the glass windows etc, thinking ok. If it's a bomb,or fire I need to be far enough away from the blast, but the rest of the sheep stood there.
After about 30 minutes everyone was let back in, no explanation given.
I'll admit I did go back in, I was determined to get my solar desk light things. Lol but left ASAP.
Do people not think about the possibilities ? What might happen. Take reasonable actions to stay safe?

RAS

cornishchick wrote: »

. What worried me was everyone stood right out side the store with its big glass windows moaning about having to leave , to leave their trolleys and shopping. I walked a few more hundred yards away, ensuring that I was away from the glass windows etc, thinking ok. If it's a bomb,or fire I need to be far enough away from the blast, but the rest of the sheep stood there.

The way we organise evacuation, the first job a fire warden gets when they have herded their mob out of the building is to herd said mob far enough away from the building to ensure that they are not sitting under windows etc. The second one is to make sure that twerps do not try to get back into the building.

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Called into a local sports shop, looking for aluminium arrows.

They didn't actually have the size I was looking for, but as the price is the same, irrespective of size, it didn't matter.

The price?

Wait for it.

£5 each. :eek: