Preparedness for when

Perplexed_Pineapple

Interesting reading jk0. As with so many things it depends on your point of view. Glad to wake up this morning and find out that WW3 hadn't broken out overnight and that the Pistorius trial is still dominating headlines. No prepping to speak of today, so instead, a small late Valentine's rhyme:
Roses are red, violets are glorious, don't turn your back on Oscar Pistorius
It made me smile anyway

Charis

ALIBOBSY wrote: »

Another gardener getting hammered by local codes in the US here:-

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/02/11/city-ordinance-nightmare-texas-homeowner-facing-2600-fines-weeds/

I can't see that happening here, with the whole englishmans house his castle attitude inbred into us all lol

Ali x

Its creeping in

One thing that bothers me is that during both world wars hoarding was punishable by a prison sentence. In a crisis, if food is rationed again (not as remote a possibility as we have grown to believe) would we all be wasting our time preserving and growing, only to have it snatched away? I read only today that the UK is already the largest importer of food and drink in the EU as it only produces 59% of its own food and 90% of fruit eaten in the UK is imported from abroad.

I also wonder how useful our wind up radios will be when all UK radio programmes are broadcast for DAB radios. It's still on the cards to be rolled out between 2015 and 2019.

[Deleted User]

Isn't hoarding defined as stockpiling food after a crisis occurs?

As preppers, we are stockpiling food before a crisis.

As for the wind up radios, I think you will find, in a national emergency, information broadcasts will be made on digital, AM and FM channels.

That's what Laura Ellis from the BBC stated, in May last year.

elaine241

Hello All

Just catching up as RL seems to have taken over for a few days:(.

I finally got out into the garden and although the soil is still too cold and wet to dig and plant I cheered myself up with planting seeds. I have a heated propagator and already have seedlings of peppers, cucumber and chillies crowding my kitchen windowsill. Today I planted more banana peppers, about 6 types of tomato ( a girl can never have enough tomatoes! :rotfl:), vegetable spagetti and filled the propagator again. In the greenhouse I have planted peas, broadbeans and sweetpeas all in Greggs coffee cups (minus their outer wrapper) that I plant directly into the soil so as to not disturb the roots. I have strawberry runners growing away in pots, cuttings of gooseberry bushes all sprouting, a new rhubarb from the sick plant section plus loads of herbs growing from seeds I saved from last year. I have Alpine strawberries growing from seed as everyone seems to love them. TBH feeling quite smug re the veg plot so far! The raised beds will be turned over once dry enough and then I will cover with plastic to warm up. Some were covered for winter so I shall attack them tomorrow. I have sorted all my stash of veg and flower seeds and I am determined to get more planted; I have my eye on a patch of ground that hasnt been used for much, I am sure I can dig it up and plant potatoes etc , things that take a lot of space.

One annoying thing happened to day , TPTB invaded my sanctuary and space!!! We run a field that technically was compulsory purchased about 30 yrs ago but never used for building or any other use. Since that time the farm has continued to use it as it had for the previous 470 years! No one else could use it as it doesnt have any road access. Anyway the local council has decided to put it into their name and into the local development plan . Today two surveyors were marching around for several hours taking a full survey of the field. They nearly got bitten by both my sheepdogs as they take a dislike to anyone on their patch! I asked them what they were doing and apparently they were from the neighbouring council as no one from our council would go to the site :rotfl:, my reputation seems to have spread! I asked them to include our vehicle right of way diagonally accross the development area and the septic tank located right in the centre of another patch they have decided to build on. Bring on the fight!!! They seemed more than happy to help in a little mischief making and cage rattling as they obviously love the idea of causing trouble to our planning department!! It is also in the hands of a "less than whiter than white" solicitor, which lets face it we all need a bit of a thug to fight low and dirty against TPTB!!! Watch this space!

Prepping wise I have done s*d all besides add a few freebie Kindle books to my collection. Todays offering is "Hobo Handlines & the Survival Fishing Kit" a guide to making and using survival fishing kit. As I look like a bit of a Hobo today it seemed apt!

Anyway keep prepping and dont let TPTB grind you down!! Elaine x

jk0

elaine241 wrote: »

Hello All

Just catching up as RL seems to have taken over for a few days:(.

I finally got out into the garden and although the soil is still too cold and wet to dig and plant I cheered myself up with planting seeds. I have a heated propagator and already have seedlings of peppers, cucumber and chillies crowding my kitchen windowsill. Today I planted more banana peppers, about 6 types of tomato ( a girl can never have enough tomatoes! :rotfl:), vegetable spagetti and filled the propagator again. In the greenhouse I have planted peas, broadbeans and sweetpeas all in Greggs coffee cups (minus their outer wrapper) that I plant directly into the soil so as to not disturb the roots. I have strawberry runners growing away in pots, cuttings of gooseberry bushes all sprouting, a new rhubarb from the sick plant section plus loads of herbs growing from seeds I saved from last year. I have Alpine strawberries growing from seed as everyone seems to love them. TBH feeling quite smug re the veg plot so far! The raised beds will be turned over once dry enough and then I will cover with plastic to warm up. Some were covered for winter so I shall attack them tomorrow. I have sorted all my stash of veg and flower seeds and I am determined to get more planted; I have my eye on a patch of ground that hasnt been used for much, I am sure I can dig it up and plant potatoes etc , things that take a lot of space.

One annoying thing happened to day , TPTB invaded my sanctuary and space!!! We run a field that technically was compulsory purchased about 30 yrs ago but never used for building or any other use. Since that time the farm has continued to use it as it had for the previous 470 years! No one else could use it as it doesnt have any road access. Anyway the local council has decided to put it into their name and into the local development plan . Today two surveyors were marching around for several hours taking a full survey of the field. They nearly got bitten by both my sheepdogs as they take a dislike to anyone on their patch! I asked them what they were doing and apparently they were from the neighbouring council as no one from our council would go to the site :rotfl:, my reputation seems to have spread! I asked them to include our vehicle right of way diagonally accross the development area and the septic tank located right in the centre of another patch they have decided to build on. Bring on the fight!!! They seemed more than happy to help in a little mischief making and cage rattling as they obviously love the idea of causing trouble to our planning department!! It is also in the hands of a "less than whiter than white" solicitor, which lets face it we all need a bit of a thug to fight low and dirty against TPTB!!! Watch this space!

Prepping wise I have done s*d all besides add a few freebie Kindle books to my collection. Todays offering is "Hobo Handlines & the Survival Fishing Kit" a guide to making and using survival fishing kit. As I look like a bit of a Hobo today it seemed apt!

Anyway keep prepping and dont let TPTB grind you down!! Elaine x

Elaine,

Have you not heard of adverse possession? If you have occupied some land for more than 12 years you can apply to own it.

I suggest you see your solicitor about this asap.

mardatha

Is it not good to lift sweet peas outof a pot and then plant outside? I was going to start mine off in wee pots on the windowsill then empty them into the garden when they're bigger.

DawnW

mardatha wrote: »

Is it not good to lift sweet peas outof a pot and then plant outside? I was going to start mine off in wee pots on the windowsill then empty them into the garden when they're bigger.

I don't think it matters that much. I have done that, and the plants have been fine.

When I worked on a (plant) nursery when I was a teenager, we used to grow them in tall narrow pots without bottoms though, obviously resting in seed trays, with the idea that they don't like having their roots disturbed. Those pots, thinking about it, were almost exactly the same shape and size as a loo roll middle... so I might try that this year.

GreyQueen

mardatha wrote: »

Is it not good to lift sweet peas outof a pot and then plant outside? I was going to start mine off in wee pots on the windowsill then empty them into the garden when they're bigger.

Not according to what I've heard and read. Apparently sweet peas need deep pots (thing min 6" deep) and detest root disturbance, they really won't tolerate it. They're supposed to be best grown in situ but if you must transplant, sowing them in long skinny root-trainer type fibre pots that you can just put straight into the ground is the way to go. Good luck, they're lush flowers.

Elaine, cackling evilly over here at the thought of your shenanigans with the planning peeps. You might want to 'discover' great crested newts. They're always good for a major spanner in the works of planners;

http://great-crested-newt.org/index.html

We have lots of common toads, common frogs, regular newts and I'm sure a former allotment officer told me there were Great Crested Newts somewhere on our lottie site. They're very welcome, and will be wheeled out if some greedy builder starts eyeing up our little piece of Eden out in suburbia.

Bob's right, hoarding is defined as accumulating excess after a crisis has started. Anything else is just overshopping. If you and Jo Normal rock up to the supermarket and you spend £3.49 on tinned food for the Armageddon Cupboard and she spends the same on a bottle of wine to drink that night, you're each making choices, aren't you? And presumably she'd no more think of offering you one glassful of her wine bottle than she would expect to have some of your cans in a crisis.

Archery went well. I've been using a longbow which reached from the floor to my eyebrows. TWANG!! I loves it, I loves it so much. And hit up two supermarkets on the way home for whoopsies so all is well with the world.

Plus I have tea. And fancy scones marked down just for moi a second time to only 30p for 8. Someone once said of me that I had more front than Southend. Except he pronounced it Sarfend. I've never been there so don't know whether to be offended or not.:p

elaine241

Hi all yes we have thought of adverse possession for the ground but unfortunately the previous owner did some things that severely reduce the chances of fighting this line of attack. Our best bet is to throw a wopping great spanner in the form of a right of access for tractors diagonally across the site thus reducing the development area by at least 50%! TBH there is a chance of a large payout to relinquish the access or move it to allow the sale and development. I have a bit of a moral battle between fighting the development or taking the money and moving. There is a chance that a field of ours will also go for development, this would result in a life changing amount of money and securing my old age and my children's future.
Back to more important issues LOL, peas and sweet peas do not like. their roots disturbed. I plant them in coffee cups or individually in kitchen towel cardboard tubes to give their roots a long space to grow. They will grow after being transplanted but will sulk a good while before deciding to pick up and grow!

Anyway keep up the good fight against TPTB and concentrate on the important things like growing peas!

siegemode

jk0 wrote: »

Someone on PP posted this link:

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/03/02/crimea-for-the-crimeans/

It's very interesting to see the real history behind the events.

Thanks for this, interesting indeed. Have been looking at the history and trying to understand the bigger picture. I'm very warey on anything from the msm.