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mardatha

I can honestly say (I think!) that I've never seen an anglo saxon building. or town or street. And GQ, I've never lived anywhere flat, I would have serious mental problems trying to live in a flat world lol!

nuatha

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Although that wouldn't be the case, if they were built/modified to run on shale gas.

Hence the comment about lpg - burning the fuel directly in the engine may well be more efficient than the intermediate step of producing steam (and adding the substantial weight of water and pressure vessels). If shale gas can be liquified (or we return to coal gas using underground coal gassification) then it is still likely to be more efficient to burn this directly in the engine to produce drive,

Static steam engines on the other hand ...

herbily

Don't know what the Scots equivalent of Anglo-Saxon is, my history's not that good, but there must have been someone in your neck of the woods in the 7th to 10th centuries? You'd be amazed how long people hang on to the old street layouts, on the basis of "If it ain't broke don't fix it" - unfortunately in our neck of the woods the Vikings broke a few bits. (And William the Conqueror broke a few more bits in "the Harrying of the North", when he pretty much burnt everything north of York.) Apologies for being bad at Scottish history, but am sure that a fellow-SHTFer can put me right;)

JayneC, I use "Ecoal" to supplement wood in my boiler stove - if your local place doesn't do it in bags, you can get it online from coals2u.co.uk.

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Several million visitors a year, eh?

Our world famous market alone, gets 1/4 of a million visitors per week.

We have our own castle too.

GreyQueen

mardatha wrote: »

I can honestly say (I think!) that I've never seen an anglo saxon building. or town or street. And GQ, I've never lived anywhere flat, I would have serious mental problems trying to live in a flat world lol!

The oldest part of the city's street plan (and some of the original street-names) date back to the anglo-saxons. There aren't any surviving buildings from that era above ground although there are a few foundations whose whereabouts is known. There are pre-Norman Conquest bits and bobs underground, and Norman and post-Norman buildings a-plenty.

Like Ankh-Morpork, Provincial City is built on itself. I love it when the water company have to dig up the mains round here and zero in to gawp down the holes they dig. The civil engineers are always very helpful to the terminally-nosey like myself. I've even met ones who get to go spelunking in the tunnels under the city centre.

Couldn't bear to do that myself (claustrophobic).

You're feeling about flatness is my feeling about hilliness.........:)

I do love a bit of history, although I was slightly-phased by the skull one customer brought in from a car park at a place I used to work in (very old churchyard under the carpark and bits of bodies used to sometimes surface in the flowerbeds around about).

I was at a school which was on another ancient site and some builders were trenching - digging to lay a pipe - and turned up skeletons. One of them apparently went to the head master in a complete state about it, just to be told nonchanlantly that yes, we knew, just put them carefully to one side and pop them back in the trench when you've finished with the pipe, dear fellow.

Well, they'd been planting monks there for centuries, bound to turn up a few bones from time to time.:rotfl:

ETA ; our castle is taller than your castle, na na na na-nah! It's pretty good, in a shortish sort of way. Where is it?

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It's the Drill Hall, aka Castle Armoury.

It was built (in 1863) on the site of the original 13th Century Castle, the foundations of which are open to view, on the other side of the street.

It is the largest Army Reserve Centre in the UK.

It has been used as a filming location for Coronation Street.

The old Bolton Street Railway Station (a 2 minute walk away) was used as a filming location in a programme about the lives of Morecambe and Wise.



As well as trains still running from it (by the East Lancashire Railway enthusiasts), it is used to host 1940s weekends.

mardatha

Herblily don't feel bad re not knowing Scots history. I don't know who was here either LOL! Just us, probly!

ginnyknit

Hey Bob I come over to Ramsbottom regularly - small world. Its a lovely place to visit and lots of interesting shops as well as the railway of course.

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Glad you like it ginnyknit.

It's the gentle pace of life I like.

The hardware store on the main street, is where they stock the £3-99 Hurricane lanterns.

Do you ever travel into Bury itself, to visit our world famous market?

nuatha

mardatha wrote: »

Herblily don't feel bad re not knowing Scots history. I don't know who was here either LOL! Just us, probly!

600AD you were part of the Anglo Saxon kingdom of Beornicas (Bernicia), with Picts to the North and the Welsh (Cymric) Men of the North (Hen Ogledd) to the West and Western South, Largely what become the Debatable Lands. (The Scots were still in Ireland) By 800AD it was the Kingdom of Northumberland (still Anglo Saxon). If memory serves it was Frisians, Jutes and Angles rather than Saxons, who were the majority of the settlers, at least in the early period.
Again IIRC it was a deal between Edgar and David of Scotland that separates Northumbria at the Tweed and cedes the North to Scotland. (Though Berwick changed hands several times since then).
Not aware of any Scottish AngloSaxon remains other than the Ruthwell Cross, at Ruthwell, Dumfriesshire.