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"chazzers" :huh:0
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Charity Shops, those Aladdins Caves of the unexpected wonderful oddities that other 'normal' people think they don't need any more that become treasure to us preppers!!! I got a Campfire Cookery Book from Oxfam yesterday for £1.99p looks brand new selling currently for £12.99p on Fleabay, you just never know what will turn up!!! Cheers Lyn xxx.0
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Bedsit_Bob wrote: »When did this become about pollution in the home :huh:
BTW. Alternative energy sources, like solar/battery LED, may be OK for lighting, but how will you use them heating, when both gas and electricity have been cut off, in a major SHTF/EOTWAWKI situation?
When you said it's effects were 'trivial'; I was just pointing out the hazards of using it, which you then took issue with.0 -
I have as a back-up an old Primus stove which runs off paraffin. It's a great little stove that has much better power output than the Trangia and is more portable than the gas stove. Paraffin as a fuel is relatively safe to store (it won't explode like petrol) and is widely available and fairly cheap. It wouldn't be my first lighting solution, but as something that can be used for heating, lighting and cooking its multi-purposeness (a word I just made up) makes it fairly hard to beat. If SHTF we're not going to be worrying too much about local pollution, although carbon monoxide is a very real concern that also applies to woodstoves, gas stoves, barbeques and generators.0
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Oh dear, sitting here in my city centre flat an hour and a half into a power black out, even the pub down the road is out! Wishing I had bought a few practical candles along with my pretty girly ones!Mortgage Apr 18 £417,894 BTL Mar 18 £162,857
Mortgage now -- £350,085 BTL now --- £162,6680 -
FloppyDisk wrote: »Oh dear, sitting here in my city centre flat an hour and a half into a power black out, even the pub down the road is out! Wishing I had bought a few practical candles along with my pretty girly ones!
A candle is a candle
At least you have some in.0 -
Perplexed_Pineapple wrote: »I have as a back-up an old Primus stove which runs off paraffin. It's a great little stove that has much better power output than the Trangia and is more portable than the gas stove. Paraffin as a fuel is relatively safe to store (it won't explode like petrol) and is widely available and fairly cheap. It wouldn't be my first lighting solution, but as something that can be used for heating, lighting and cooking its multi-purposeness (a word I just made up) makes it fairly hard to beat. If SHTF we're not going to be worrying too much about local pollution, although carbon monoxide is a very real concern that also applies to woodstoves, gas stoves, barbeques and generators.
My biggest problem with paraffin stoves was having to carry a second fuel to preheat the burner, which is why I moved over to Trangia's for backpacking (and found Trangia's most efficient with a decent wind). From the point of view of a backup cooker I still think they are excellent, though my preference is the flat gas ring type.
One of the advantages of many years of camping is a variety of gear to fall back on - though that may make me a contender for the hoarding thread.0 -
Look up 'The Firespout' it's a portable woodburner that you can run on twigs, leaves any woodland (or in my case garden) debris. That source of fuel will be available and easily collected for as long as there are trees and bushes growing in the land. I've had one for quite a few years, it's made from stainless steel, comes apart to flat pack for transportation, very easily reassembled and you can carry it in a rucksack as it's also very light. The downside is it can only be used outside in the open air although I suspect if you were lucky enough to have an open fireplace with a working chimney you could work out how to fire it up indoors too, with care! I've purchased a set of cooking bars for mine to enable me to balance a pan on top and also a regulator door to control the fire, they are not expensive and the fuel for them is FREE and abundant, they can also be used as a heat source on a cold day, really effective if you need to be outside in winter i.e Bonfire Night etc. and you can cook sausages on sticks over them at the same time. I got mine precisely because of the availability of free foraged fuel in this country. If we ever do have to evacuate home it's the one that will go with us along with my firesteel and flint as then I won't have to lug bottles or tablets of highly inflammable fuel with us as added weight and have the worry that when that's gone, no more cooking on my stove!!! Cheers Lyn xxx.0
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I like that MrsL. Practical and simple that's me0
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