make do and mend for tougher times

dumpy

but that the point it's not driven by h&s it's driven by compensation and or money cconcens.

Control measures are part of risk assessments so the risk could be controlled but it's easier to say no than put systems in place (and often cheaper, ie more supervision, more staff, more costs)


I find the use of "elf and safety" really offensive. It demeans the proper work done in this area. It's a bit like calling something mickey mouse. Over one person a week last year didn't come home after work because they died. Because someone hadn't taken the safety of their staff seriously. And they often died in unimaginably terrible ways.

Judith Hacket at the HSE is trying to dispel the H&S myths where people take the easy way out. So if people do have an issue with soup and schools why not contact them? There is a myth busting panel and anyone can contact them.

cutestkids

We are luck that our school does allow flasks to be taken in to school with soup etc in them.

I do not see how they can object to a child bringing in a flask of soup from home when they are serving soup at least two days every week at school dinners,
The soup at school dinners is likely to be much hotter than the soup brought from home which is generally warm but not roasting hot by lunch.

I have to agree with dumpy the whole world is so terrified of being sued that they say no to just about everything under the guise of Health and safety.

Where will it end I wonder.

mardatha

Well I've just made an effort - got the RV on the whizzy nukey thing (aka Kenwood, I'm scared of the noise ) - and he chopped, sliced and grated some carrots,leeks,cabbage and onions. Shoved in bags in the freezer, so that will make life easier. And got the soup pot going.
I want to go to Aldi but it's 20 miles in the wrong direction for everywhere else. I have been filling up the stash and all cupboards are full, so maybe now if I can get a grip then we could get costs down a wee bit.
I do tend to whine when I'm not well, I am sorry and yer all very patient
Wonder what on earth housewives in 1941 felt -they must have been permanently shattered. By time they'd done a shift at war work, queued for hours round all sorts of shops to get the food in, gone home to cook tea with gas that was liable to go off at any time plus a shortage of coal for heating... And I wonder if ME was around then but not called anything.
We have got it lucky eh?

GreyQueen

Ha, Monnagran, you have sucumbed to the siren-lure of the Trolley. Pls post linkie to whatever it is you have purchased so we can all admire. And what will it be called?

I admit to being a sad g*t but I have become a bit of a trolley-spotter, sort of an urbanised version of a twitcher. There are at least 4 Rolser trollies at large in this city (mine and 3 other sightings, all different fabric designs) And lots of other decidely-groovy trollies of all shapes and hues and prints.

The trolley has clearly come of age as a fashion accessory.

I have slept for 12 hours overnight (9-9) having ended my workweek feeling like Mrs Grumpy. Have pootled out and got a new pillow in the sales so should be sleeping like a baby tonight.

I'm awarding myself a bit of a chill with t'internet then will bike my weary and aching carcase up to the lottie. I need to drop off the rotables into the compost Dalek and will see if I can bend enough to do some ground clearance. If nothing else, a bit of a blow will do me good. And I may see a s l u g which needs to be rehomed somewhere, mwah ha ha!

Hokay, time to see some other threads, have a good one. GQ xx

ETA Mar, a lot of women had "nerve trouble" which I suspect was a catch-all term for a lot of different woes. And who can blame them?

SpikyHedgehog

monnagran wrote: »

GreyQueen: OK I've given in at last. My lovely purple shopping trolley will be delivered in the next few days. It's all your fault.

You won't regret it - unless it comes full of baguettes! Lol. The only comment I've had about mine is when I was taking it empty to get DS2 & his baritone from school, & someone said I must have a lot of stuff in it.

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

Hewo Evrywun, is Docky!!!!!! ANTY GINNY youse a gud gurly fer doin rowlies inna muddd, iz funnn yis? ANTY MONNAGRAN iz sew kleva coz Ise hadda eyedear fer layta wen yewse beta wivva backie fing. Ize gointa teeches yew howta chases a dukkies wot livses onna beech, vat is reawy funnnn, butt yew needz ter bea betta wivva backleggies sew yew kan dooa farst runnin fing, izzat wot shey meens bout bein er Qak? Lotsa luv frum yer frend Docky xxx.

Sitting waiting for DS2 to finish music school, sensibly reading my phone, & trying not to laugh out loud! Docky, that probably is what Aunty Monnagran meant ...

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ANTY SPIKY --- SSSSSSLLLLLLLUUURRRRRRPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!! Frum yer frend Docky xxx.

mama67

lisakay wrote: »

Off to qualitysave in the morning to get food flask for the girls who've both requested soup for their butty boxes now it's getting colder. I'll probaly put it on in tne SC over night so it's ready just to pack up in the morning for them. I've never said this about a flask before, but I hope they don't hold the heat too much that it's still red hot by lunchtime, will experiment over the weekend

Don't want to be against hot food for the kiddies but best check the schools policy on this.

We have a no hot food in packed lunch H & S policy. Hot meals are available to order through the hot meals scheme.

This is a primary school.

westcoastscot

I think as greyqueen (?) said there were a lot of "nerves" about. Also though I recall my grandparents living nearby and they would often eat with us - it was cheaper all round for them to chip in with stuff grown in their garden, and two extra wasn't really noticed. I live with my two grown sons and we all cook regularly, although one works really long hours, so we have a few options dinner-wise.
Good idea to prep veg in the kenwood - may copy that as it would save time chopping etc in the week.

GreyQueen

westcoastscot wrote: »

I think as greyqueen (?) said there were a lot of "nerves" about. Also though I recall my grandparents living nearby and they would often eat with us - it was cheaper all round for them to chip in with stuff grown in their garden, and two extra wasn't really noticed. I live with my two grown sons and we all cook regularly, although one works really long hours, so we have a few options dinner-wise.
Good idea to prep veg in the kenwood - may copy that as it would save time chopping etc in the week.

Yeah, I can recall my Dad reminiscing about a schoolmaster at his (early 1950s) village school who had been left so traumatised by WW2 that he needed to have a pint of beer at lunchtime to steady his nerves for the afternoon classes.

It helped him though the day and in the village it was no secret but it's hard to imagine it being tolerated nowadays. He was a very good teacher. I guess there were so many badly-damaged people around that there was more empathy for suffering. Of course, we have medications that they didn't have. A lot of that generation got past it by never talking about what they'd seen.

Pre-prepping veggies is an excellent idea and something I do whenever possible. If you accompanied me into my kitchen (3 paces to the left of this pooter, past the shopping trolley) you'd see when I opened the mini-freezer door a sea of veggies frozen into little plastic bags, mainly carrots but with h.g. beans and peas.

Like a lot of us, I have health issues which mean I can end up too whacked to feed myself properly, then get into a slow downward spiral because I'm not getting proper nutrients, so having stuff pre-prepped which I can just chuck into the steamer is an absolute godsend.

I'd commend pre-prepping veg to anyone with a busy life, if you can spare the freezer space, of course.

Right, small snack for luncheon and then off to face the allotmentino, even though it's dank and miserable out there and I lot my mojo somewhere on Tuesday. Anyone finding a rather bedraggled-looking mojo, pls let me know.

(I imagine it looking like a Furby btw. It's probably a purple one.)

maryb

Ditto 'nervous exhaustion'. And I think it was common to refer to some people as being not very strong/delicate. I think everyone knew someone who was 'never really well again' after some short illness.

Thanks for the tip Mar. That's effectively what I've been doing so glad to know I'm not missing anything. DD just loves coming along after me and wringing out the facecloths I leave draped on the basin - but it's impossible to do it with one hand. I just don't feel hygienic. Still, it's a good excuse to get the family to cook.