cyclist deaths & the law

Mark_Mark

custardy wrote: »

Well where is the point?
You were fine with the moped as nobody died. So where's the point where action is required by the Police?

The simple answer is when it's of evidential value. You matter didn't go to court so why waste a few hours on a statement?

custardy

Mark_Mark wrote: »

The simple answer is when it's of evidential value. You matter didn't go to court so why waste a few hours on a statement?

So how does one discern a statements evidential value without taking the statement?

MrsE_2

Paradigm wrote: »

Lets not forget though, cyclists can take to the road with no formal training whatsoever which seems ludicrous given that they are the most vulnerable.
Maybe some kind of safe riding course is needed?

I drive home about 8 miles, about 7 of that is on unlit country roads.
I see cyclists with no lights & cyclists with very dim lights.

On coming lights can be fairly blinding too. If you were to meet a bike while going around a bend with another car coming in the other direction, so you get the initial glare, well I doubt they'd be seen in their black clothing & dim or no lights. You can get those hi vis jackets for almost nothing, I cant understand why they dont have them!

Mark_Mark

custardy wrote: »

So how does one discern a statements evidential value without taking the statement?

I give up, you're either on the wind up of clueless.

custardy

MrsE wrote: »

I drive home about 8 miles, about 7 of that is on unlit country roads.
I see cyclists with no lights & cyclists with very dim lights.

On coming lights can be fairly blinding too. If you were to meet a bike while going around a bend with another car coming in the other direction, so you get the initial glare, well I doubt they'd be seen in their black clothing & dim or no lights. You can get those hi vis jackets for almost nothing, I cant understand why they dont have them!

Whats your point?
Do you think having high viz renders your impervious.
This is typical of a thread relating to cycling.
What some cyclists do doesnt relate to all cyclists.
I can tell you from painful experience. Wearing high end gear and high end lights doesnt mean a driver wont simply decide to plough on through.

custardy

Mark_Mark wrote: »

I give up, you're either on the wind up of clueless.

Yes Mark Im clueless in thinking the police may have to take a statement, to decide if there's a case to follow up.
What am I thinking..
As usual you have decided my opinion and experience cannot have value vs yours

MrsE_2

custardy wrote: »

Whats your point?
Do you think having high viz renders your impervious.
This is typical of a thread relating to cycling.
What some cyclists do doesnt relate to all cyclists.
I can tell you from painful experience. Wearing high end gear and high end lights doesnt mean a driver wont simply decide to plough on through.

My point is cyclist should all wear hi vis vests & have decent lights on their bikes, if they want to ride at night, especially on unlit country lanes.

custardy

MrsE wrote: »

My point is cyclist should all wear hi vis vests & have decent lights on their bikes, if they want to ride at night, especially on unlit country lanes.

Right,but thats a given. (and law in the case of lights)
If some cyclists choose to do so,then its their lookout.
However its not really relevant unless you have a legal case in mind where it is relevant?
I know of at least one case where not wearing a helmet was cited as a mitigation for a lenient sentence of a driver who killed a cyclist(the 2nd cyclist he had killed) despite it not being a legal requirement. Have a view on that?

MrsE_2

custardy wrote: »

Right,but thats a given. (and law in the case of lights)
If some cyclists choose to do so,then its their lookout.
However its not really relevant unless you have a legal case in mind where it is relevant?
I know of at least one case where not wearing a helmet was cited as a mitigation for a lenient sentence of a driver who killed a cyclist(the 2nd cyclist he had killed) despite it not being a legal requirement. Have a view on that?

But I dont want to injure or kill someone on a dark country road because they are riding without lights:(

custardy

MrsE wrote: »

But I dont want to injure or kill someone on a dark country road because they are riding without lights:(

and I dont want to be killed
sadly when this happens,it seems many drivers get a free pass regardless of their actions.