There is no such thing as a PARKING FINE - please read

peter_the_piper

trisontana wrote: »

It's like sitting next to one of those nutters at a bus-stop who ramble on about nothing.

I thought it was like listening to my MIL, 82 and a local president of W.I.
Always wittering on and changes the subject without a pause.

Rover_Driver

screwbiedooo wrote: »

Since parking enforcement was privatised, sorry decriminalised, enforcement passed from the realm of state indictment to civil justice.

Civil justice is about redress between two independent parties. Nothing to do with the state/crown. Civil 'due process' goes like this:

1. Complaint (by plaintiff)
2. Answer (from defendant)
3. Trial (at court)

Parking enforcement may have been decriminalised, but it is still covered by legislation, and it does not follow the process above - nor that in the examples of your grass cutter.

Trebor16

I think its time for Screwbiedoo to put his money where his mouth is and go out and get a PCN and apply his theories, letting us know how he gets on of course.

HO87

screwbiedooo wrote: »

Civil justice is about redress between two independent parties. Nothing to do with the state/crown. Civil 'due process' goes like this:

1. Complaint (by plaintiff)
2. Answer (from defendant)
3. Trial (at court)

(this can be verified online, try jurisdictionary.com)

As has already been pointed out the term "plaintiff" was dropped from English and Welsh courts some years ago and replaced with the term "Claimant".

This would not, of course, be relevant to the website jurisdictionary.com which deals with United States law. True, it too is a common law jurisdiction, but it is not England & Wales.

Oopsadaisy

Why do you give this total fruit loop any credibility by trying to debate with him???

Coupon-mad

Oopsadaisy wrote: »

Why do you give this total fruit loop any credibility by trying to debate with him???

I thought it was quite clever of HO87 to point out that the info had ben lifted from a website which relates to US law! :rotfl:

Oopsadaisy

Fair enough...he's stupid, lazy and a fruit loop then!!!!!!!!!

LincolnshireYokel

wow is this thread still going? hasnt everyone died of boredom yet ?

peter_the_piper

I did..........

chromofoam

Right, so from having read this from top to bottom I have surmised that;

Oopsadaisy - while you disagree, you're not helping, you just look like an idiot and you're wasting my time with your stupid continuous posts attempting to discredit somebody who is trying to make a point (whether valid or not).

FMOTL stuff is interesting but I'm yet to see anyone use it effectively in court and win. Can anyone provide evidence of this? Which cases have been fought and won and fought and lost? All I can find is theory after theory.....no solid fact that it works.

Magna Carta, Bill Of Rights.....it's all very well in theory - but does it work? Please substantiate. Otherwise, what's the point in discussing it unless you can prove that it works?? Just saying...