Advice needed - violent attack by neighbour's dog

zaxdog

I do apologise for presuming to venture an opinion on the general topic.

That said picking up a dog that is approaching !!!!!es on heat is foolish in the extreme and ANY dog owner should be aware of that!

mazza111

zaxdog wrote: »

The motto:

"If your foul children were as well trained as my dog missus the world would be a happier place"

All very well and good, but this isn't a well trained dog we're talking about. It's been on the street causing problems on several occasions that the OP has told us about. This latest scenario has caused the dog to bite. Don't get me wrong, I love dogs and most animals, but I value the life of a child more important than a dog out of control.

If it had been an isolated incident, I would tend to err on the side of caution, but it's not. They are clearly irresponsible owners.

Mr_Ted

Why dont some of you people understand, dogs do what dogs do under certain circumstances and its always the dog that pays the ultimate price for what are usually foolish irresponsible owners!

There are very few bad dogs, just poorly trained, poorly controlled, and poorly supervised, like a lot of kids today!

FYI I have a GSD that is as soft as **** and has grown up with kids and they can do anything with him, and I mean anything, BUT, he is a big scary looking dog and I respect that from other peoles perspective and he is never OFF the lead or roams loose near a public area, and I still wouldnt dream of leaving the kids alone with him unsupervised!
BECAUSE, like humans, there is always the possibility that he may take exception to something and react, its a natural thing to do!

ITS CALLED DEFENSE, in most cases, or used to be!

The dog in this case was seriously out of control but doing something natural to dogs, but I would certainly NOT attempt to pick a dog up under such circumstances, thats bound to get the response that happened from the dog, and the owners response just proves a bad owner!

RuthnJasper

capeverde wrote: »

I think there's a few people going over board here. Firstly you weren't 'badly hurt', you had a couple of scratches on your chest and I would bet the 'open wound' was not actually that open. The moral of the story is, you shouldn't have picked the dog up. It was obviously excited and consider how huge you looked to him. He was just scrambling to get away and may just have been frightened.

Admittedly the woman across the road didn't handle the situation right either, but our kids control our dog and he's a large flattie. I would guess the neighbours dog wasn't that big if you could just pick it up, so there's no reason why her 6 year old couldn't take it home.

All this nonsense about calling the police, for heavens sake.

Thank you to EVERYONE who has replied; I'm really grateful. Capeverde - actually, part of my elbow was bitten off. But, in the vast scheme of things, it could have been worse.

I've known the dog since it was a pup (last year) and it's not a bad animal - my issue really was that my neighbour should have it on the lead if it can't be trusted not to run amok in the cul-de-sac. I don't think it would attack a child, but a lot of the other neighbours have cats, plus we live near a busy road, so for the dog's own sake it's not a good idea.

Hey ho. Thank you to everyone who has taken the time and trouble to respond; I'm most grateful. x

warmhands.coldheart

On one occasion when I was walking my dog with my wife and Kids (one child very young and in buggy) a guy decided to push by us on the footpath between me and the dog and my wife and buggy (Very rude and very stupid) needless to say he got a nip in the a$$. on some occasions some people deserve to be bit in my opinion!!

mazza111

Thank you Mr Ted for being a responsible dog owner. If more were like you I'm sure there would be less of these threads.

RuthnJasper, hope you're not in too much pain and are recovering nicely.

capeverde

RuthnJasper wrote: »

Thank you to EVERYONE who has replied; I'm really grateful. Capeverde - actually, part of my elbow was bitten off. But, in the vast scheme of things, it could have been worse.

I've known the dog since it was a pup (last year) and it's not a bad animal - my issue really was that my neighbour should have it on the lead if it can't be trusted not to run amok in the cul-de-sac. I don't think it would attack a child, but a lot of the other neighbours have cats, plus we live near a busy road, so for the dog's own sake it's not a good idea.

Hey ho. Thank you to everyone who has taken the time and trouble to respond; I'm most grateful. x

Not wishing to sound as though I dont believe you, but it sort of adds to my feeling that you are exaggerating when you say 'part of my elbow was bitten off' out of interest, which part? If it was that bad, surely you would have gone to hospital.

Heres a conundrum for people then. Firstly I would like to differentiate between some of the horrific attacks we have seen in the press recently and a small nip, where a dog is warning you.

If you have a dog and your child is teasing it and it gives them a nip, who is to blame, the child or the dog. We were always bought up that it is the childs fault and it will teach it not to tease the dog again. We always had working collies and they wouldnt stand any tail pulling or kids pretending they were a small horse.

Another conundrum. If you walk too close to the back of a horse and it kicks you is that your fault or the horses?

It seems to me people arent willing to take responsibility for doing dumb things nowadays and it is always someone or something elses fault. If that something else is a blameless animal, all the better as it cant argue its point.

mikey72

capeverde wrote: »

If you have a dog and your child is teasing it and it gives them a nip, who is to blame, the child or the dog. We were always bought up that it is the childs fault and it will teach it not to tease the dog again. We always had working collies and they wouldnt stand any tail pulling or kids pretending they were a small horse.

The same one back, if I have a child, eating food on the beach, and your dog comes bounding over, teasing the child, who is to blame? If I give the dog a warning slap, or a kick, and the owner complains, is it the dogs fault, or the owner? I've always taught my kids not to go near dogs, we won't have dogs or owners pretending they're just another play thing for their amusement.

mikey72

capeverde wrote: »

Another conundrum. If you walk too close to the back of a horse and it kicks you is that your fault or the horses?

For what it's worth, I've punched a horse as well, an unpleasant animal that tried to bite me as I walked past the front of it's stable door.

mazza111

capeverde wrote: »

Heres a conundrum for people then. Firstly I would like to differentiate between some of the horrific attacks we have seen in the press recently and a small nip, where a dog is warning you.

If you have a dog and your child is teasing it and it gives them a nip, who is to blame, the child or the dog. We were always bought up that it is the childs fault and it will teach it not to tease the dog again. We always had working collies and they wouldnt stand any tail pulling or kids pretending they were a small horse.

Another conundrum. If you walk too close to the back of a horse and it kicks you is that your fault or the horses?

Well, my son was *nipped* by an old lab in her cage, because he was dumb enough to poke his fingers in the cage. He had been sitting stroking the dog happily outside the cage, none of us thought for a second it was so possessive. That was clearly his fault. Tetanus and a couple of stitches sorted it. If the same dog had done the same outside of the home, was not on a leash or under control, I would have blamed the owners of the dog for not having better control.

You walk too close to a horse and get kicked, that's your fault for being stupid.

Who's fault is it when a cat claws someone...who's fault is it when a tiger escapes from the zoo? We could go on and on.

The OP made a mistake of picking the dog up, even though it's something she had to do in the past. At the end of the day, dogs do bite. I'm actually starting to believe that all dogs should go to some sort of training class, or the owners.