Strong painkillers

maureen_04

Of course it is easy to lose weight, when you are in agony with every movement. When you can't walk more than a few yards without help, when you have to ask your partner to help you to shower and use the bathroom.
I will set to work immediately and shake this weight off. Well done on your success all credit to you, but not everyone can cope as well as you. I am fat, I hate myself, and most days I wish the end would come. Yes it's my own fault, and I feel sorry for myself.
I am clearly a waste of space, who doesn't deserve any help from either the medical profession or the state.
I am so glad I came on here for support, I feel heaps better now!

bestpud

Oh darn it!!

I'd planned a quiet evening on the sofa, with a film and chocolate, but you've all made me feel guilty now!

An apple and a walk it is then! :cool:

PAH!!

bestpud

nannytone wrote: »

the doctor can refer you to the gym.
Im sorry cos im one of natures 'skinnies', but ive been reffered in order to put on a bit of weight. In 2 weeks ive out in 5 poundd, and in a healthyb way!

Rub it in why don't you! :rotfl:

mazza111

Maureen, take the criticism with a pinch of salt, it's not always easy. You will know yourself what you can and can't do. I'm sure like me, you know you need to lose weight. There's a lot that can be done to help yourself, but yes, I agree you have to be in the right frame of mind to do it.

bestpud

maureen_04 wrote: »

Thank you Credit Crunch for your kind words of encouragement.
Of course it is easy to lose weight, when you are in agony with every movement. When you can't walk more than a few yards without help, when you have to ask your partner to help you to shower and use the bathroom.
I will set to work immediately and shake this weight off. Well done on your success all credit to you, but not everyone can cope as well as you. I am fat, I hate myself, and most days I wish the end would come. Yes it's my own fault, and I feel sorry for myself.
I am clearly a waste of space, who doesn't deserve any help from either the medical profession or the state.
I am so glad I came on here for support, I feel heaps better now!

One tiny step at a time is the way to go.

When you have so many problems and they are all interlinked, it can be so difficult/overwhelming knowing where to start that you end up not starting iykwim?

If you can make one tiny change and stick to it then you've taken a step in the right direction.

It could be anything but whatever it is, remember to congratulate yourself and make it a fully ingrained habit before you move into the next tiny step.

You can do it, but not all at once.

(Now to apply this to myself! :cool:)

earthbound_misfit

maureen_04 wrote: »

Thank you Credit Crunch for your kind words of encouragement.
Of course it is easy to lose weight, when you are in agony with every movement. When you can't walk more than a few yards without help, when you have to ask your partner to help you to shower and use the bathroom.
I will set to work immediately and shake this weight off. Well done on your success all credit to you, but not everyone can cope as well as you. I am fat, I hate myself, and most days I wish the end would come. Yes it's my own fault, and I feel sorry for myself.
I am clearly a waste of space, who doesn't deserve any help from either the medical profession or the state.
I am so glad I came on here for support, I feel heaps better now!

I wish I could give you a hug! Being overweight doesn't mean you need to hate yourself; just that you should try to do something about it. I imagine it's a bit of a vicious circle, feeling bad about yourself, losing confidence and in pain, and end up eating more.

For all the fat-haters on the thread, have come compassion - what about people who commit suicide or self-harm (in secret, not an emo stereotype) or drink in excess because of their psychological unease/emotional pain? All just time-wasters who should pull themselves together? I know a veteran (young too) who put on a ridiculous amount of weight in a short time on returning from a tour because of the trauma and overwhelmed by the things they had witnessed. This was not someone considered or ever showing a 'weak will' in any other respect. Also, incidentally, someone who could still outrun most people and was still regularly going running, physically active at work etc.
In addition, did you know that most people with an eating disorder are a 'healthy' weight? But it is so much easier to point the finger at someone obviously obese... (and much more paletable than criticising the equally 'disordered' anorexics.)

To the OP: I would suggest speaking to your dr about weight management clinincs, also IAPT (Improving Access to Psychological Therapies). This is a fairly new scheme of short-term therapy interventions, for people with issues such as mild/moderate depression or anxiety, and behavoiral-type issues (overeating tends to involve both of these). I believe they also help with pain management and the psychological effects of long-term conditions. It may not be appropriate, but they will assess you first to see. Your GP may have other suggestions (NOTE: do not let them tell you it's all biological and fob you off with anti-depressants!).
I know what it's like to feel rubbish and to blame for your problems (I have depression) and people criticise without knowing what it's like to be you, and only ever seeing things from the outside. It sounds like you need some more self-love, care for yourself - anything but food - nice bubble baths, good books, interesting/funny things to watch on TV. I guess it's one step at a time with everything.

With regards Atos, they are known for being unsympathetic towards just about everything, although they are theoretically supposed to consider the effects of medication on people. I would keep quiet about your weight making the arthritus worse; they will probably be as unsympathetic as some posters here! Also, have a look around the web for general advice on Atos medicals. I think if you fell asleep in a work group they'd understand, but to start with you'd have face-to-face interviews that are relatively short, so they can gauge where the issues are and what areas of work may be appropriate in future.

Apologies for going rather off-topic...

Dunroamin

earthbound_misfit wrote: »

For all the fat-haters on the thread, have come compassion .

I thought most of us had said that we were overweight ourselves.

earthbound_misfit

Dunroamin wrote: »

I thought most of us had said that we were overweight ourselves.

Mmm, but that doesn't mean you don't hate it...
I guess the 'pull yourself together'/'just do it' brigade got my goat a bit

skibadee

What strength Co-codamol do you take OP?
I take 8 30/500mg ones a day ( these are only available on prescription ), plus, 20mg Anti-depressents and 2 - 4 mgs of Diazepam, along with 5mg of Zolpidem at night.
I do get tired, quite often it is in the afternoons, hence I've reduced my working days to half days as muc as possible....still working a full day at least one day a week too.
It is difficult, I can understand the weight thing too, although I'm not that big, I have put on about 2.5 stone in the last 7 yrs after cancer treatment....and believe me I cannot shift it.....good on you for going to try losing weight, try giving part-time/half days work ago....maybe it will help.
Failing that, I hope you have a successful medical assessment, but to be honest I don't know how it works.

princessdon

Going to be an unpopular post but here I go ...

If someone had copd or a lung related disability and smoked 60 a day - everyone would tell them to quit smoking, but it's unfair to tell someone whose life appears to be very dramatically affected by an a condition that is aggravated by excess weight to seek help?

Also the pain killers are probably used by a lot of working people

If the combination affects her life so badly she falls asleep and this is preventing work then a) should she be permitted to drive? are there alternatives?

And as I said earlier sometimes working can help! I loose a lot of my get up and go sitting at home all day. Being out, having company, having a routine can at times be a positive. Being out of work causes tiredness and lethargy or at least condenses the feeling.

I'll pop my tin hat on now ready for the onslaught