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Cameron - tax avoidance morally wrong
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They are merely investigating how to close the loophole to make it illegal. Quite a big difference, not hard to understand.
I do find it funny that all the board's socialists are climbing out of their !!!! pit to have a say. If you ever were clever enough to make a hundredth of what these people make you would do the same thing. Go back to your irrelevant lives, every socialist is a champagne socialist. The problem is most socialists are only clever enough to afford water.The J is a Financial Advisor-This site doesn't check anyone's status and as such any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Always seek professional advice.0 -
Jimmy Carr makes jokes about topical subjects. Do you have to believe something to joke about it? If I tell a mother in law joke, do I have to hate her? Do I have to be racist to tell an Irish joke?
And he's not a socialist.
And he actually gives a lot of money to charity. Of course, it's tax efficient to do so but at least charities benefit.
Do you actually ever think before you post, or ever bother to check on what you actually post.
When Jimmy Carr is doing something like the Live show he is using satire against tax dodging scumbags, satire is used to make a point based on truth using humour, Ian Hislop is a particular genius at this art form.
When he does a family show and then starts with "there was a Irishman Englishman, Scot......." then that is a joke that is based on an untruth and is fine.0 -
homelessskilledworker wrote: »Do you actually ever think before you post, or ever bother to check on what you actually post.
When Jimmy Carr is doing something like the Live show he is using satire against tax dodging scumbags, satire is used to make a point based on truth using humour, Ian Hislop is a particular genius at this art form.
When he does a family show and then starts with "there was a Irishman Englishman, Scot......." then that is a joke that is based on an untruth and is fine.
I know you are !!!!!! so I'm not going to give you a hard time. Kudos for coming out fighting though, I like that.
Humour is in the mind of the beholder (to steal a phrase). You find it funny if you are an honest, hard working taxpayer. You don't find it funny if you are a tax avoiding shyster. It matters not what the person telling the joke thinks or does.
I've been away from this forum for a bit so I forgot I had to dumb everything down. Apologies.The J is a Financial Advisor-This site doesn't check anyone's status and as such any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Always seek professional advice.0 -
Quite frankly, you need you some education.bankhater_1965 wrote: »making higher earners pay more in taxes because basically they are the ones that make the mess so they righty should pay more than others , just like it is now , lets also say the rich get rewarded for failure also ! damm right they should be screwed
If everyone was high earners we wouldnt be in this mess. The mess has been created by Labour. In their last year of power, the public sector was 53% of this country's GDP. How can ANYONE expect not to have a massive deficit when 53% of the GDP is from the public sector. Tax returns in the country are higher than they've ever been. The problem is the amount of public spending.
If you also understood what banks do, you probably wouldnt be a bankhater. The deficit has nothing to do with banks or the financial cost to the public purse of bank bailouts. The bailouts are all accounted for separatly and are not included in the deficit.
Gordon Brown WANTED to encourage risk taking. He is on the record for saying this. The banks were deregulated and they simply went away and did what anyone would do - tried to make as much money as possible. The banks have been made the scapegoat to cover up the mess that labour created.
Anyway, im not going to continue. You know the saying - never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.0 -
They are merely investigating how to close the loophole to make it illegal. Quite a big difference, not hard to understand.
they are quite clearly investigating the K2 scheme with a view to prosecuting/civil action against those who have used it if possible.
the simplest way to close a supposed "loophole" is not to pass new legislation, but get clarification from a court or tribunal that the claimed loophole doesn't actually exist.
the way a loophole of this sort generally works is some lawyer/accountant draws a picture and says "eureka, i have found a clever way of avoiding tax legally based on my strict legalistic interpretation of various words in various clauses of the law". they will get a formal opinion from counsel as to whether users of the scheme they have dreamt up are likely to be prosecuted and then use this is a marketing tool. however, this opinion does not make the "loophole" a fact. a court will decide if HMRC decide that they don't agree with the avoidance scheme's interpretation of various words.0 -
Gotta love public accounting :rotfl: :rotfl:angrypirate wrote: »The bailouts are all accounted for separatly and are not included in the deficit."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
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I know you are !!!!!! so I'm not going to give you a hard time. Kudos for coming out fighting though, I like that.
Humour is in the mind of the beholder (to steal a phrase). You find it funny if you are an honest, hard working taxpayer. You don't find it funny if you are a tax avoiding shyster. It matters not what the person telling the joke thinks or does.
I've been away from this forum for a bit so I forgot I had to dumb everything down. Apologies.
You have no idea what satire is!!0 -
Suppose it turns out that there's no difference between a sham loan and a real one except the intention, so you can't make a tax avoidance scheme enforceably illegal without hitting other people's legitimate activities.They are merely investigating how to close the loophole to make it illegal. Quite a big difference, not hard to understand.
There's still the question of whether it's immoral. Do people have no responsibility for what they do if their reasons can't be proved in court?"It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0
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