Fined £275 for watching YOUTUBE

WelshBluebird

The_Safordian wrote: »

The letters put it across as recieving equipment and thus you need to buy one from them

Umm, you may want to read the first line of that letter!!

I am not denying that sometimes they do try to trick people with stuff like this, but I don't think you can use their website or the letter you just posted as examples of that.

The_Safordian

WelshBluebird wrote: »

Umm, you may want to read the first line of that letter!!

I am not denying that sometimes they do try to trick people with stuff like this, but I don't think you can use their website or the letter you just posted as examples of that.

No but as you say you do have to re-read it because they are designed by PR companies to bait people to conform.

Capita has admitted its not their job to tell people if they don't need one, its to make money for the BBC and they have targets to reach.

An example of this is

You must buy a TV Licence if you're watching TV

It isn't true, they know its only "live" television feeds but it suites them better to tell a lie. I'm watching TV now but don't need a BBC TV Licence as its not live

Flyboy152

The_Safordian wrote: »

The letters put it across as recieving equipment and thus you need to buy one from them

Sounds fair enough to me.

The_Safordian

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Sounds fair enough to me.

I think everyone here knows you would find these threatograms ok. The strange thing is I doubt you'd like a Cable or Satellite company sending you similar threats but thats you isn't it

missile

If the details are correct, it would seem OP was unfairly penalised for not attending court. It seems her written submission was ignored. If she had attended, I feel sure she would not have been found guilty.

System

The big problem they have is that their records are disjointed.
1. They have a list of addresses that do not have TV licences. Not really hard for them to get.
2. They have a list, from retailers, of addresses that have bought TV/Freeview boxes etc.

However you can not compare 1 with 2 because the device may have been bought as a gift, the incorrect address given or a host of other reasons

In short it is only speculation that a lack of TV licence means that there is physically a TV present AND it is being used to watch live transmissions.

Due to a lack of evidence (unless a resident admits it) they will never have sufficient evidence to put before a judge for a warrant and therefore no right to enter a dwelling.

Flyboy152

The_Safordian wrote: »

I think everyone here knows you would find these threatograms ok. The strange thing is I doubt you'd like a Cable or Satellite company sending you similar threats but thats you isn't it

If I didn't pay my cable bill they would sent far worse.

Flyboy152

missile wrote: »

If the details are correct, it would seem OP was unfairly penalised for not attending court. It seems her written submission was ignored. If she had attended, I feel sure she would not have been found guilty.

I think it has been established the OP was BSing anyway.

The_Safordian

Flyboy152 wrote: »

I think it has been established the OP was BSing anyway.

Anything negative about the BBC is "BSing" to certain people here

!!!!!! wrote: »

Due to a lack of evidence (unless a resident admits it) they will never have sufficient evidence to put before a judge for a warrant and therefore no right to enter a dwelling.

This is a point I've made a few times now. The big mistake people make is to think these sales "people" can e reasoned with. I've seen people sign the forms only for the sales "person" to later add his/ her own bits which then gets the innocent person taken to court and they don't have a leg to stand on because the forms been signed.

Examples of innocent people being setup by the BBC are here

http://www.tvlicenceresistance.info/forum/index.php/topic,5385.0.html

So as you can see it's not worth talking to them. They have harsh targets to reach and commission to make. This unfortunately results in innocent people being setup

The_Safordian

Flyboy152 wrote: »

If I didn't pay my cable bill they would sent far worse.

They wouldn't be allowed to get away with what the BBC does. If you don't pay your Cable or Sat bill they just cut the service, hit your credit rating and possible take you to court for money owed but thats it then