Nurse starting Botox & Fillers Business

shortcrust

DUnner87 wrote: »

Mountainofdebt, who exactly do you think you are discouraging someone for using there initiative to choose a different and new independent career path which you know nothing about?

Savvy_Sue is on this site to be supported in her decisions to be successful NOT for you to tell her about responsibilities (to the NHS) which she doesn't have and that you know nothing about. Whilst informing her how you are happy within you imperfect skin... Which she did not ask about. It sounds as if you have an issue with Botox not her business plan.

Sue, good luck with the business. I'm sure it is as risky as starting any business but if you plan well, use good marketing tools to access new clients and provide a good service I am sure you will be successful.

Good luck

The words highlighted in bold are the words that wind me up the most on this site!!

This is an open forum and people are entitled to post their views and opinions freely. If someone thinks that something is unwise they should say so. People looking for unconditional support should look elsewhere.

lovinituk

shortcrust wrote: »

The words highlighted in bold are the words that wind me up the most on this site!!

This is an open forum and people are entitled to post their views and opinions freely. If someone thinks they that something is unwise they should say so. People looking for unconditional support should look elsewhere.

Well said.

pickpocketlocket

darlyd wrote: »

My friend is also a nurse and is thinking of doing this she is going to be doing it at her local dentist using the dentist to prescribe. They will be doing it together as a business I guess.. Something to think about perhaps? You would get more clients, I for one would not feel comfortable going to a beauty salon for something like this.

Good luck with it..

This concerns me massively - a dentist prescribing for a procedure he is not trained in.

Dunroamin

pickpocketlocket wrote: »

This concerns me massively - a dentist prescribing for a procedure he is not trained in.

What's really scary is that the training course is only for 2 days!:eek:

brook2jack

The problem is that both the GDC and the GMC are cracking down on remote prescribing , as rightly unless the doctor or dentist has themselves examined and spoken to the patient in person they cannot safely prescribe any medications.

I personally am very anti Botox except for medical reasons but a dentist who has studied both pharmacology ,medicine and facial anatomy for years and had to pass stringent exams in both is certainly much more suitable to be involved in administering Botox than someone who has only done a two day course.

As only doctors or dentists can legally prescribe Botox and the authorities are clamping down on rent a prescription pad operators (quite rightly) it wouldn't appear to be a good area to get into a business if not one of the above.

princessdon

My dentist does botox and chemical peels. I am young enough (or look young enough as get asked for ID when buying alcohol) not to need it, but I'd feel strange going to a dentist if I needed it. Don't know why - but I'd rather go to a specialist clinic despite the fact they are probably better qualified.

brook2jack

You do realise as the law currently stands you do not need to be medically qualified in any way to administer fillers or Botox? The two day courses are not legally recognised or monitored in any way what so ever?

Just because you go to a clinic there is no guarantee the person providing is even a nurse?

Nurses do virtually no training in the anatomy of the head and neck, and very little physiology and pharmocology ,doctors who are not additionally qualified do very little.

At least a dentist has spent at least a year dissecting the head and neck ,studying anatomy , has spent five years training in oral and facial reconstruction and the indemnity companies will now fully insure for Botox.

A clinic is no guarantee that people are properly qualified and the cosmetic proceedures Market is very very poorly regulated at the moment with everyone from beauticians upwards injecting substances which they have very little understanding of into areas of the body they have no real idea of the anatomy of and telling ,erroneously , the public the proceedures are completely safe.

As I said before I personally think the injecting of a potent medication into someone every few months when no one knows how botulinum toxin is exactly metabolised, when no one is sure what effects the lifelong deposition of it in the liver, nerves and brain tissue is (it is not excreted as many practitioners will incorrectly tell you ) for purely cosmetic reasons is difficult to justify on a risk benefit basis.

Botox is not without very significant and possibly life changing risks. But at the moment any person ,with a doctor/dentist willing to risk their career by prescribing, can set themselves up as a Botox or filler practitioner many employed by clinics.

nimbo

I have heard recently that the government are going to be looking into changing the rules regarding botox and fillers - as currently there is no need to be medically trained to do the 2 day course and call yourself qualified.

I would also be hesitant to leave a job until I had a good number of clients and therefore a steady stream of clients. Also if doing a second job while with the NHS you do have to get written permission from you manager, because if they found out it could be gross misconduct, and if you have been there for a while you would need to know that you could fill the gap on you CV with a reference.... (if you ever needed to at any point)...

Personally I would feel more comfortable if having an injection in my face to go to a salon, or 'spare' room at a dentists as it would make me feel more secure.... Around the area I live in you can rent a room in a salon for about £80 day - maybe less if you did a deal - maybe give them botox for the use of it????

I think before you go on the course shelling out 1k you should research how you will advertise, and where? Maybe schools in the better parts of town where all the mum's drive Chelsea tractors, or salons if they will allow it...

Also you would need to look at the cost of the drug, and the profit margins taking into account you would need to change the insurance on your car if you will be mobile, and the liability insurance needed. The set up costs will be high, but if you were in a salon you may be able to snag a few customers easily?????

How long does each session take????

How would you dispose of the sharps, and the rest of the clinical waste - this will be expensive as it is not domestic, and needs to be dealt with properly the maximum fine for not doing so can be up to 500k... Whoever you give it to to dispose of has to have a commercial waste permit and licence. If you do not check this properly, then you are liable for the fine as well as them.

How much capital will you need, and if you are planning to leave the hospital how long will it be before you are more than covering costs???

clairemarie134

I am also a qualified RGN staff nurse now working in an out patients department but my background is accident and emergency. I am looking for a side line myself to boost my income and wondered if you could reccommend a good course?
Thanks
And good luck

Nunu-1990

Hi everyone

So I'm a provisionally licensed doctor in the uk. I am qualified to apply and work as a junior doctor, but as the foundation programme is an annual opportunity, I made a clerical mistake in this years application and because of this can only reapply this aug for 2014.

Between now and then I have considered getting trained to give Botox treatment to those interested. I am just researching right now to see if its worth investing in, so I would appreciate any useful and candid information.
1- As a provisionally licensed doctor, would I be able to prescribe the botulinum toxin. I personally don't think I can but if anyone knows the facts I'd love to know.

2- how much is insurance a year to cover me against any troublesome cases

3- who provides the best courses?

4- what about official disposal of sharps?

If I think of other questions I'll post but if anyone could offer their advice thoughts and knowledge I'd be very grateful

Thanks