EBay Final Value Fee Increase Private Sellers

TKPeters

About time too, doesn't make sense that as a Business Seller we have to pay 10% on our sales without a cap & regularly sell £1000+ items, yet become a unregistered business [private seller] & its capped to £40 [£75 after 10th July]

porto_bello

As a private seller, I assumed it was a straight 10% - whatever the price. I never knew there was a cap on the first £400, so it won't affect me.

When I read the thread title, my first thought was actually the 10% fee would be increasing... now that would have affected me!

Froggitt

What percentage FVF are business sellers paying?

porto_bello

Froggitt wrote: »

What percentage FVF are business sellers paying?

Good question, Froggitt. I've just had a look.

Tech (computers, photography & mobile phones etc) ... 5%
Parts (Vehicle parts and accessories) ........................ 8%
Media (Books, DVDs, Music, Video games) .................. 9%
Collectables (and everything else) ........................... 10%
Clothes shoes and accessories ................................ 12%

Given the above list, I can see why a business seller in the tech category wold be happy to be registered as a business seller, but not if they were selling clothes - which I guess might go some way to explaining why eBay targets that category.

I'm also guessing that beyond a certain trading level, discounts apply?

So a private seller selling a mobile phone pays twice the fees final value of a business seller? Sounds like a less than level playing field!

soolin

porto_bello wrote: »

So a private seller selling a mobile phone pays twice the fees final value of a business seller? Sounds like a less than level playing field!

A private seller though is not likely to have more than one phone a year to sell even if they sell every contract phone they get on renewal. A business based on tech would have large quantities.

As for discounts, business sellers only get discounts if they can achieve TRS status and even then the discounts are not huge, they start at 10% of FVfs, so on a FVF of £5 they would get a whole 50p bck

Crowqueen

OTOH a business seller has to pay tax and adhere to consumer laws etc etc etc which would cost them a fair bit more than a private seller.

It is not a level playing field and never will be, until private sellers are held to things like DSRs.

I'm not a business, you understand, but can see that a business has way more overheads in some departments than a private seller.

RufusRufus

One issue that grieves me and my hubby (who does a fair bit of work through ebay) is apart from ebay fees, there are the paypal fees. Paypal is owned by ebay! So ebay are being paid twice. Not only that, paypal take a percentage of the full price paid, including the postage price! I believe it's supposed to be illegal to take a cut of the postage price?

Valli

RufusRufus wrote: »

One issue that grieves me and my hubby (who does a fair bit of work through ebay) is apart from ebay fees, there are the paypal fees. Paypal is owned by ebay! So ebay are being paid twice. Not only that, paypal take a percentage of the full price paid, including the postage price! I believe it's supposed to be illegal to take a cut of the postage price?

Whether it's legal or not I don't know but paypal take a percentage (plus a flat fee for private sellers) of the transaction value.
That'll be their get-out then!

Valli

soolin wrote: »

Private sellers though are going to have very limited amounts of things over £400 to sell, so it is hardly a real,issue. It is business sellers with high end stock who already have the uncapped FVfs that suffer by not having caps on fees.

as a private seller I don't think I have ever sold anything over £400 anyway.

I have never sold anything for over £50. I have had a three of items go for astonishingly high prices though (still less than £50), and they all had starting prices of under a £5 - totally unexpected that they would reach the prices they did! Two of them were vintage items I had for years; one was a set of headphones left by a grandparent and they were listed as untested! I don't buy to sell, I don't sell everything I list and what I do sell is items I, or my immediate family, no longer want.

soolin

RufusRufus wrote: »

One issue that grieves me and my hubby (who does a fair bit of work through ebay) is apart from ebay fees, there are the paypal fees. Paypal is owned by ebay! So ebay are being paid twice. Not only that, paypal take a percentage of the full price paid, including the postage price! I believe it's supposed to be illegal to take a cut of the postage price?

I have no idea why anyone would think it is illegal?

If it was ilegal then every merchant card company is in breach as they charge retailers a fee for the whole transaction as well, including postage where applicable.