Under 2's and TV

milliebear00001

Anyway...I have reports to finish writing, and children whom my laptop is denying conversation and reading, so I am bowing out for now!

onlyroz

Person_one wrote: »

just taking away the screens in a lot of houses won't make those parents any more skilled or interested.

This is basically the point I was trying to make.

I think it's distracting to get into an argument over whether it matters if you've only ever seen the Disney version of Snow White, or whether Shrek is better than Red Riding Hood.

A good childhood should be a balanced one, and I don't think demonising TVs or games consoles helps.

mildred1978

mrcow wrote: »

Urgh, I hate that.

Even worse are the ones who teach their children to sit at the table and eat their dinner with the TV/DVDs permanently on. Then they wonder why they can't get their children to sit nicely at a table when they are elsewhere.

My kids don't watch TV daily. It's on a couple of times a week. I know plenty of parents who wouldn't be able to cope with my set up as they've grown far too reliant on the tv as a childminding tool.

The easy option isn't always the best.

We do the opposite. At home we eat at the dining table and there is no television. If we're out for a meal or something (once a week or so) we take the iPad. If he needs robe distracted while his food cools, or when he's finished and others are still eating then he gets to watch cartoons or play games on the iPad.

I would have thought other diners would prefer that to my son screaming to get down and run around annoying them.

angelil

^^ or they could read while waiting for their food...as my sister and I used to do.

I am beginning to feel a bit sorry for milliebear here. She has been shot down by some of you even though I am also saying I am noticing negative effects in my classroom of (older) children and that we have also got colleagues who agree with us. I would find it difficult to believe that so many teachers could be this wrong about the consequences we are seeing in our classrooms.

Another thing I am seeing is that many of my students (aged 14+ especially but the problem also exists with some of the younger ones) are literally addicted to their smartphones. You have a HUGE battle on your hands to get them to switch them off and put them away. And I wouldn't mind betting that half the parents here who rely on smartphones and iPads to entertain their children will be the first ones here complaining in ten years' time (or somewhere else, if MSE no longer exists!) that they can't get their children to get off their smartphones and actually talk to them for a change. As far as I see it, it is a slippery slope: if your children have access to these devices at such young ages they will want to continue to have access to them - and I would bet that it won't be long before they are bought their own before they're out of primary school.

mrcow

angelil wrote: »

^^ or they could read while waiting for their food...as my sister and I used to do.

I am beginning to feel a bit sorry for milliebear here. She has been shot down by some of you even though I am also saying I am noticing negative effects in my classroom of (older) children and that we have also got colleagues who agree with us. I would find it difficult to believe that so many teachers could be this wrong about the consequences we are seeing in our classrooms.

I've had a Y8 child practically falling asleep in one of my lessons. He told me he was too tired to work as he was up until 3am playing Black Ops.

Lots of kids in my classes watch LOADS of tv. Often I don't know the characters they are talking about. There was an outcry the week before HT when I told my Y10s I'd never seen an episode of TOWIE. They think I'm weird.

mildred1978

angelil wrote: »

^^ or they could read while waiting for their food...as my sister and I used to do.

I am beginning to feel a bit sorry for milliebear here. She has been shot down by some of you even though I am also saying I am noticing negative effects in my classroom of (older) children and that we have also got colleagues who agree with us. I would find it difficult to believe that so many teachers could be this wrong about the consequences we are seeing in our classrooms.

Another thing I am seeing is that many of my students (aged 14+ especially but the problem also exists with some of the younger ones) are literally addicted to their smartphones. You have a HUGE battle on your hands to get them to switch them off and put them away. And I wouldn't mind betting that half the parents here who rely on smartphones and iPads to entertain their children will be the first ones here complaining in ten years' time (or somewhere else, if MSE no longer exists!) that they can't get their children to get off their smartphones and actually talk to them for a change. As far as I see it, it is a slippery slope: if your children have access to these devices at such young ages they will want to continue to have access to them - and I would bet that it won't be long before they are bought their own before they're out of primary school.

Actually, we do always have crayons, paper and books too.

I'm the daughter of 2 educators/policy makers, one of whom specialises in child development. I'm sure they'd be the first to tell me if I was harming my son.

I myself had continuous access to a computer from the age of about 3. Believe it or not I'm not illiterate or unable to communicate.

There's an old saying which I've found to be pretty accurate: "those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. (And those who can't teach, teach PE.)

Person_one

mildred1978 wrote: »

There's an old saying which I've found to be pretty accurate: "those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. (And those who can't teach, teach PE.)

What do your educator parents think of that saying?

mrcow

mildred1978 wrote: »

There's an old saying which I've found to be pretty accurate: "those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. (And those who can't teach, teach PE.)

It's an ignorant saying. But you've taken it out of context anyway so it doesn't even make sense.

mildred1978

Person_one wrote: »

What do your educator parents think of that saying?

In their experience it's pretty true, too.

Hence one is retired and the other advises on education policy all over the world.

milliebear00001

mildred1978 wrote: »

Actually, we do always have crayons, paper and books too.

I'm the daughter of 2 educators/policy makers, one of whom specialises in child development. I'm sure they'd be the first to tell me if I was harming my son.

I myself had continuous access to a computer from the age of about 3. Believe it or not I'm not illiterate or unable to communicate.

There's an old saying which I've found to be pretty accurate: "those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. (And those who can't teach, teach PE.)

LOL - really?! Never heard that one before...

I prefer the version that goes: "...and those who are defensive and feel judged, shoot the messenger".