Under 2's and TV

patchwork_cat

milliebear00001 wrote: »

I wish this were true. I know of several preschoolers with a bedroom TV, and many parents who find it useful to lull their child to sleep. Admittedly, I don't know of many parents who risk an individual Ipad, but I know plenty who allow there preschoolers to use theirs - along with their smartphone, Ipod etc, which was what I was suggesting.

Whilst I didn't overly stop my children watching TV during the day. I never let them fall asleep to a video. I did have a fellow NCT mum that did. We would read to them and put them to bed. I must admit though, that DVD's were great when my DS got an ear infection and wouldn't sleep. On the settee cuddling, it would stop him crying and I could catch 40 winks at 3 am !

Person_one

milliebear00001 wrote: »

I wish this were true. I know of several preschoolers with a bedroom TV, and many parents who find it useful to lull their child to sleep.

Well, I don't know of any, so it doesn't look like either of us are categorically wrong or right.

mildred1978

Person_one wrote: »

Well, I don't know of any, so it doesn't look like either of us are categorically wrong or right.

Me neither.

onlyroz

milliebear00001 wrote: »

I see lots of children from caring, professional backgrounds who cannot tell me the stories of the common fairytales, but know the 'story' of 'Shrek', or 'Tangled'.

I am sorry, but what? You're arguing that Brothers Grimm and Hans Anderson have more artistic merit than Shrek? :rotfl:
Just because something is modern that doesn't mean it's bad.

Person_one

onlyroz wrote: »

I am sorry, but what? You're arguing that Brothers Grimm and Hans Anderson have more artistic merit than Shrek? :rotfl:
Just because something is modern that doesn't mean it's bad.

Yeah, my nephew can tell you all about the Gruffalo and the Gruffalo's child in great detail too, is modern stuff only ok if its from books?

milliebear00001

onlyroz wrote: »

I am sorry, but what? You're arguing that Brothers Grimm and Hans Anderson have more artistic merit than Shrek? :rotfl:
Just because something is modern that doesn't mean it's bad.

I find that really sad actually. Again, the point is missed. Nothing to do with modern versus old...

Yes, fairy tales have huge importance to the early education of children, not least because tales like The Three Bears are traditionally orally told and listened to down the generations, and also because while Little Red Riding Hood is read, Shrek is watched.

In some small way, you just proved the point I am making. Many parents today just fail to see the relevance of the things that make the difference in early education.

Person_one

milliebear00001 wrote: »

I find that really sad actually. Again, the point is missed. Nothing to do with modern versus old...

Yes, fairy tales have huge importance to the early education of children, not least because tales like The Three Bears are traditionally orally told and listened to down the generations, and also because while Little Red Riding Hood is read, Shrek is watched.

In some small way, you just proved the point I am making. Many parents today just fail to see the relevance of the things that make the difference in early education.

milliebear, you've made some good points but you're starting to sound incredibly condescending.

milliebear00001

Person_one wrote: »

milliebear, you've made some good points but you're starting to sound incredibly condescending.

If it sounds condescending, it's not meant to. Early education is my passion and career. I am offering a professional judgement of what children benefit most from (in a learning sense) in their early years. If you don't like the advice, that's fine, you don't have to take it, but there are many people who may welcome a professional point of view from somebody who has a huge amount of experience of the learning of young children (and the way that is changing as a result of different social changes) other than that of her own or her children's friends.

Person_one

milliebear00001 wrote: »

If it sounds condescending, it's not meant to. Early education is my passion and career. I am offering a professional judgement of what children benefit most from (in a learning sense) in their early years. If you don't like the advice, that's fine, you don't have to take it, but there are many people who may welcome a professional point of view from somebody who has a huge amount of experience of the learning of young children (and the way that is changing as a result of different social changes) other than that of her own or her children's friends.

Its not the points you're making that are the problem, its the language. Telling people they've missed the point when they actually just disagree with you, or calling their opinions 'sad' is not very helpful.

I completely agree with you on the importance of one on one time in early years, I just think you're focusing far too much on screens and technology, there's an awful lot more to it and just taking away the screens in a lot of houses won't make those parents any more skilled or interested.

dizziblonde

milliebear00001 wrote: »

I find that really sad actually. Again, the point is missed. Nothing to do with modern versus old...

Yes, fairy tales have huge importance to the early education of children, not least because tales like The Three Bears are traditionally orally told and listened to down the generations, and also because while Little Red Riding Hood is read, Shrek is watched.

In some small way, you just proved the point I am making. Many parents today just fail to see the relevance of the things that make the difference in early education.

Add in kids convinced that the Disney version is the ONLY true and accurate version of many fairytales!

As for the console thing - my childminder when I was at primary school had an Atari and I did get the odd game of Space Invaders... and Gameboys were about £85 released because I saved all my pocket money to buy one after playing the girl who renamed herself to Lauren Laverne's one under the desk in science lessons a lot... then my mother nicked it to play Tetris.