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Renting a room in a house full of students. What are the Council Tax implications?

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  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    Have you discussed any of this with the LL? If no then you may want to do so before going any further.

    You may find that the LL is not willing to have a mixed FT student/ non-student household.
  • Sandwich
    Sandwich Posts: 185 Forumite
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    HappyMJ wrote: »
    Why do you want to move into a house full of students and be almost forced to pay 75% of the council tax for what I imagine is going to be a Band C or D property? I really would reconsider moving into this property.

    That is a very good question. I hadn't thought about that.

    I haven't finalised anything, but to give an example, one of the properties I've been looking at is rated at £1121 for Council Tax. So if I was to move into that property, and all of my other flatmates are full-time students, then I would be liable to pay £1121, minus the single person discount?

    If so, that's madness. I'm not renting the whole place, I'm only renting a room, so surely I can't be expected to pay the same Council Tax as some rich person who has an income much bigger than mine and who rents a house like that to themselves?
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    Some points have already been posted earlier but to clarify:
    Everyone would be jointly and severably liable for the bill although the other occupants would be exempt if only they lived there
    Since 01 April 1994 student tenants can not be held jointly liable with a non-student. The non-student would be solely liable (assuming everyone are joint tenants).
    Normally the landlord of a multi occupancy house would pay it so you could go to council and say you are not responsible for it and they will bill the landlord but then everyone's rent would go up.
    Only applicable if the property is a HMO for council tax purposes.
    and all of my other flatmates are full-time students, then I would be liable to pay £1121, minus the single person discount?
    Yes
    I'm only renting a room, so surely I can't be expected to pay the same Council Tax
    This comment may make a difference - are you looking at being a joint tenant or are you only renting a specific room in the property ?. If you are only renting a room are you renting a room are you doing so from the landlord or are you sub-letting from the students ?
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • Sandwich
    Sandwich Posts: 185 Forumite
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    CIS wrote: »
    This comment may make a difference - are you looking at being a joint tenant or are you only renting a specific room in the property ?. If you are only renting a room are you renting a room are you doing so from the landlord or are you sub-letting from the students ?

    At the moment, I'm still searching for a place. The adverts I've seen usually just say '1 room to rent in house share'.
  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    Sandwich wrote: »
    At the moment, I'm still searching for a place. The adverts I've seen usually just say '1 room to rent in house share'.
    That would be a lodger then....you DO NOT want to take on the joint responsibilty for all of the rent if other occupiers do a runner.
    :footie:
    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    '1 room to rent in house share'.

    The problem with that is that the rental may be for 1 room but given as a joint tenancy on the property in which case the non-student(s) would be liable for the council tax.

    If it was for 1 room and you agreement stated you were only liable for rent on that room and not for the whole property then you would not be liable for the council tax.
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • Sandwich
    Sandwich Posts: 185 Forumite
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    CIS wrote: »
    The problem with that is that the rental may be for 1 room but given as a joint tenancy on the property in which case the non-student(s) would be liable for the council tax.

    If it was for 1 room and you agreement stated you were only liable for rent on that room and not for the whole property then you would not be liable for the council tax.

    I see. So I can rent a house with other students and not have to pay Council Tax so long as my tenancy agreement specifies that I'm renting a room?

    In that case, who's paying the Council Tax? The landlord?
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    In that case, who's paying the Council Tax? The landlord?
    If it was the L/L who was renting the property out then he would be liable - if it was the students subletting a spare room then they would fall liable (one of the odd cases where a student can be liable for council tax).

    Bear in mind that most landlords would factor something in to the rent to recoup the council tax they have to then pay.
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    CIS wrote: »
    If it was the L/L who was renting the property out then he would be liable - if it was the students subletting a spare room then they would fall liable (one of the odd cases where a student can be liable for council tax).

    Bear in mind that most landlords would factor something in to the rent to recoup the council tax they have to then pay.
    Which confirms what I was saying earlier. If you refuse to pay the joint tenants (the students) 75% of the council tax as the one that is making them (the students) liable then be expected to be asked to leave so they are no longer liable. As I said in another thread...very very confusing.
    :footie:
    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • Sandwich
    Sandwich Posts: 185 Forumite
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    HappyMJ wrote: »
    Which confirms what I was saying earlier. If you refuse to pay the joint tenants (the students) 75% of the council tax as the one that is making them (the students) liable then be expected to be asked to leave so they are no longer liable. As I said in another thread...very very confusing.

    I see what you're saying. So basically I need to look for a house share with other non-students, or for one with a load of students, but one in which the landlord has already taken care of the Council Tax.
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