Parking ticket fell off windscreen

zaksmum

On a visit to Robin Hood's Bay in Yorkshire I paid the relevant parking fee and attached it to the windscreen as directed. When I got back the ticket had come off and was on the floor of the car.

There was no fixed penalty ticket on the windscreen but a man standing nearby inputting something on his phone while glancing at my car...he could just have been using the phone of course.

A friend says there could still be a fixed penalty ticket on it's way to me, despite there being no sticker or notice on the car. I thought there'd have to be some kind of notification - who's right?

I've kept the parking fee ticket just in case, as proof that I did actually pay!

antenna

It's not paying that counts.....it's displaying......how many other cars could your pay and display ticket be used for?

antenna

Keeping the parking fee ticket only proves that you have a parking fee ticket covering the time you got a parking fine......you cannot prove "you" bought that ticket.

ManxRed

Was this in a private car park, or a council run one?

give_them_FA

Yes, that is the important part. However we have not even established that you have been given any ticket anyway.

In simple terms if it's council it needs dealing with; if private then you need not worry as it will be totally unenforceable regardless of circumstances.

Coupon-mad

antenna wrote: »

It's not paying that counts.....it's displaying......how many other cars could your pay and display ticket be used for?

Not necessarily.

Even Councils sometimes cannot insist on 'continuous display' if not backed by an Order, or if the ticket has no adhesive. Fluttering ticket cases mentioned here, with successful appeals.

The important thing for us to know is whether this is a real Council potential ticket or a fake PCN from a private company. If it's the latter then the fake PCN can and must be ignored as its just a scam impersonating authority.

Coupon-mad

antenna wrote: »

Keeping the parking fee ticket only proves that you have a parking fee ticket covering the time you got a parking fine......you cannot prove "you" bought that ticket.

But to a Council it's good evidence, and most 'fluttering ticket' cases are very winnable on appeal, albeit maybe at adjudication.

As for a private company - who cares?!

give_them_FA

From the OP's account I would doubt that any PCN of either type has been issued anyway. If it was council the guy would have been wearing a uniform and have a handheld computer thing, not a mobile phone....

zaksmum

give_them_FA wrote: »

From the OP's account I would doubt that any PCN of either type has been issued anyway. If it was council the guy would have been wearing a uniform and have a handheld computer thing, not a mobile phone....

That's what I'm hoping. Should there have been some kind of sticker or notice on the windscreen if a penalty was going to be issued through the post?

I think it's a council car park - the parking fee ticket says Whitby Scarborough Filey Borough of Scarborough and is numbered, with time of issue and fee paid. There's very little adhesive on the sticker that comes with it.:(

Coupon-mad

zaksmum wrote: »

That's what I'm hoping. Should there have been some kind of sticker or notice on the windscreen if a penalty was going to be issued through the post?

Nope, nothing needed.

Keep the original P&D ticket yourself and only send the Council a copy if you do get a postal PCN (one that says that the CEO 'had started to prepare a PCN'). That is the only thing a Council can do in this circumstance, they HAVE to issue a 'postal PCN' if the CEO could not.

If you get a 'Notice to Owner' in about a month's time, that is the wrong process by the Council and you could then appeal using the fluttering ticket appeal arguments as already linked and also the fact that no PCN was ever served, and that the NTO is a procedural impropriety because without a PCN served the Council could only issue a postal PCN and did not.

The second scenario happens a lot!

But most fluttering ticket cases are very winnable anyway so just wait and see which letter arrives if any and then post a pic on pepipoo in a new topic:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

For the moment, stop worrying about it but keep the P&D ticket SAFE!

zaksmum

Sorry to sound a bit thick here...but what's a CEO and NTO?