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Child unwell at school and no one noticed

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  • chrissie57
    chrissie57 Posts: 4,857 Forumite
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    Did you notice if she was unwell this morning if so why did you send her to school?

    Are you going to keep her of school tomorrow, if not why not?

    What exactly are you going to complain about?

    Teachers are there to educate they are not nurses or babysitters.

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  • marisco_2
    marisco_2 Posts: 4,261 Forumite
    edited 31 May 2012 at 8:37PM
    Did you notice if she was unwell this morning if so why did you send her to school?

    Are you going to keep her of school tomorrow, if not why not?

    What exactly are you going to complain about?

    Teachers are there to educate they are not nurses or babysitters.

    Above everything else teachers are responsible for the welfare of the children in their care. The school are aware that this child is susceptable to fits if she gets a temperature. You dont take risks with a child who has a pre-exisiting medical condition.

    It should have been noticed by the dinner ladies that she had eaten so little. At the school where I work the dinner ladies keep a stringent eye on the children and make sure they eat well. Any that dont are mentioned to the class teachers.

    It is possible that the child was well this morning and feeling ill could have come on suddenly. Kids can go downhill very fast.

    OP I hope your little girl will be okay. It is your judgement of course whether you send her in tomorrow. Lots of schools are doing fab diamond jubilee celebrations so it may be a shame for her to miss this. I would ask to speak to the teacher and raise your concerns with him/her. Just say that if your child says she is unwell then could it be taken seriously and her temperature be checked. Re-iterate to the teacher about the risks of fitting.
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  • grass_is_greener
    grass_is_greener Posts: 87 Forumite
    edited 31 May 2012 at 8:38PM
    I'm a teacher and as far as I see it when children are in my care I act "in loco parentis", in the place of the parent. Of course, I am there to educate but I also have to ensure each child is safe, neglecting them is not ensuring they are safe. If I was the OP, I would be very annoyed that my daughter was "ignored" when she told both of the adults responsible for her well being at that time. As a teacher, you frequently get "whingy" kids who complain of a tummy ache or a sore finger when there is actually little wrong. I've often found that the majority of children in this situation are worrying about something and what I call the "worry tummy" comes on. However, its usually pretty instinctive to realise a child that complains of being ill more than once and who does physically appear unwell (pale, drowsy, feverish) needs looking after. And its pretty inhumane to ignore that! Added to the fact that the OP's daughter suffers fits, the staff should be extra vigilant. They shouldn't have took a chance.

    Fevers can also come on quite quick with children. I've seen them bouncing around having fun, then go all pale and floppy and start vomiting half an hour later. It also works the other way round, they can get better fairly quickly too! I wouldn't blame the OP for sending her daughter to school in the morning. My mum sent me to school in reception class and I was perfectly fine, not a mark on me when she dressed me (she is a nurse) and by 12pm I was covered in chicken pox!

    OP, I'd certainly raise your concerns with the school. If I was your child's teacher and I had made this mistake ( they do happen after all when you have lots of kids in your care) then I would want to know. Poor thing. I just think about how I would feel if I was really unwell and was forced to stay at work. I don't know how old your daughter is, but if she is 6 +, it might be worth telling her not to be frightened to go back to the same teacher or assistant and explain she REALLY doesn't feel well at all until someone pays proper attention. Nothing wrong with being assertive especially when you need help!

    Thanks, this is really helpful.
    She has only just turned 5 but i think she would be able to do this.

    I do know that the class have called parents when children have been ill so I know they do do it and I know they wouldnt intentionally keep a child who was poorly but it still worries me that she wasn't noticed.
    Another parent told me this morning that they were having assessments of some description today to determine what group they would be in in year one so I guess that may be why they were busy but even so, I would have thought a poorly child would stand out as they wouldn't perform well.
  • marisco wrote: »
    Above everything else teachers are responsible for the welfare of the children in their care. The school are aware that this child is suscpetable to fits if she gets a temperature. You dont take risks with a child who has a pre-exisiting medical condition.

    It should have been noticed by the dinner ladies that she had eaten so little. At the school where I work the dinner ladies keep a stringent eye on the children and make sure they eat well. Any that dont are mentioned to the class teachers.

    It is possible that the child was well this morning and feeling ill could have come on suddenly. Kids can go downhill very fast.

    OP I hope your little girl will be okay. It is your judgement of course whether you send her in tomorrow. Lots of schools are doing fab diamond jubilee celebrations so it may be a shame for her to miss this. I would ask to speak to the teacher and raise your concerns with him/her. Just say that if your child says she is unwell then could it be taken seriously and her temperature be checked. Re-iterate to the teacher about the risks of fitting.

    Thank you. She won't be going tomorrow though, until her temp is back to normal, she won't be out my sight. They do have a jubilee trip and concert planned but with everything that will be going on, she will definitely get forgotten in the bedlam.
    I think I will ring the school tomorrow, it might not be good timing but I think I need to do it before they break up for half term.
  • Wilma33
    Wilma33 Posts: 681 Forumite
    It's worth telling her that if she feels really ill in future then she should say "I feel really ill and need to go home, please call my mum" rather than just "I feel ill". (I'm not blaming your DD btw! Just suggesting how she can better help herself in future.)
  • skypie123_2
    skypie123_2 Posts: 825 Forumite
    Did you notice if she was unwell this morning if so why did you send her to school?

    Are you going to keep her of school tomorrow, if not why not?

    What exactly are you going to complain about?

    Teachers are there to educate they are not nurses or babysitters.

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  • gibson123
    gibson123 Posts: 1,733 Forumite
    I would have a quiet word with the teacher when you take her back to school, I am almost certain she will be dismayed that she missed this. However do not be too hard on them. Wee ones seem to run out of steam at this time of year, they are often feeling tired and out of sorts, you may have noticed your own wee one getting grumpy even when quite well. Sometimes a few quiet minutes and the sore tummy, head, sore throat, or feeling sick goes away. My doctor has hos own word for it, he calls it "hingy", which means nothing much wrong just out of sorts. obviously this is not the case with your daughter, but I can understand why the teachers missed the seriousness of this.
  • miss_independent
    miss_independent Posts: 1,191 Forumite
    Thanks, this is really helpful.
    She has only just turned 5 but i think she would be able to do this.

    I do know that the class have called parents when children have been ill so I know they do do it and I know they would intentionally keep a child who was poorly but it still worries me that she wasn't noticed.
    Another parent told me this morning that they were having assessments of some description today to determine what group they would be in in year one so I guess that may be why they were busy but even so, I would have thought a poorly child would stand out as they wouldn't perform well.

    I do think it would be a good lesson to teach her in general, I've got a problematic health condition and I find it hard to make people aware when I might need medical attention but I was brought up not to make a fuss so I would have been like your DD and not went back for help. But sometimes you need to!

    If anything, I would have thought that during assessments more one to one attention would be paid to children?! Your DD was presumably ill since lunch and then would have had at least 2 hours in class following that...
  • gibson123
    gibson123 Posts: 1,733 Forumite
    P.S. hope she feels better soon hugs xx
  • Gingham_R
    Gingham_R Posts: 1,660 Forumite
    gibson123 wrote: »
    My doctor has hos own word for it, he calls it "hingy", which means nothing much wrong just out of sorts. .
    Is he Scottish?

    We say 'hinging wi something' (hing as in hang, not hinge) and it means similar, but possibly coming down with something.
    Just because it says so in the Mail, doesn't make it true.

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