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How to record an ESA medical

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  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    Le73Uq86Uv wrote: »
    Why not just ask them for a recorded WCA as it is your right to have it recorded.

    It is not.
    There is no law compelling the DWP to require ATOS to allow recordings.
    That they may have done so in some cases does not make this a right.
    Statements by ministers, oy the DWP or ATOS sometimes doing this does not change the law, and give you a right without it either being laid down in statute, or found that they must by the courts.

    The current judgement does not say that they must, it says that a tribunal would be wrong to overlook the fact that the claimant required the interview recorded.
    This is not the same as them being required to record if you ask for it.
  • Invalidation
    Invalidation Posts: 597 Forumite
    rogerblack wrote: »
    I would not generally suggest a camera.
    It adds little over the voice typically, and is much harder to site covertly so it has a good view.
    It can be very obvious if you are trying to work out which way to put your bag down!
    My mobile was quite adequate to record the interview - it was left in a closed pocket recording from before I went into the interview.
    Crystal clear.

    Its called a Key Chain camera because it looks like a Key Fob
    The DWP = Legally kicking the Disabled when they are down.
  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    Its called a Key Chain camera because it looks like a Key Fob

    I know what it looks like. Trying to position it so that it has a good view is typically not very covert.
  • A.Penny.Saved
    A.Penny.Saved Posts: 1,832 Forumite
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    edited 27 July 2012 at 11:03PM
    Yeah.. not surprised. What concerns me is that ATOS HC may deliberately misrepresent the level of requests for such recordings in order to get the machines diminished and dropped next year. I would bet my life that ATOS HC do not like their existence one iota in medical assessment centres regardless of the fact they call the claimant a customer.
    I'm not a betting man, except on sure things and I would bet on that as well.
    sniggings wrote: »
    I would strongly recommend to record the meeting, atos were my last works health care providers, I was sent to one of their doctors who one an other occasion said she did not want to go against my own doctor as she was not experienced enough on my illness, my boss sent me back to her after he had a word with her, she had been told to changeher mind and said my boss wasn't happy so she was changing she report, I said I was amazed she would change the report because my boss said too,and I asked to make a phone call because of her changing the report because she was told to, she then stopped the interview as she said she felt I was going to attack her and that I was standing over her and shouting and she was about to press the panic button, this lead to me leaving work as my boss brought a case against me, luckly I recorded the whole interview but this didn't help much keeping my job as I was that stressed over this I left.

    I played the tape to the union and he was amazed that the doctor could have claimed what she did but again this didn't help as he said a recording could not be used and I could have been sacked just for making the recording! I guess the only use is if she had claimed I hit her or worse as the tape clearly shows I was very reasonable.

    I used a mp3 memo recorder (£60) not the best quality but good enough, a phone would just be as good, just make sure not to move about too much with your cloths as the mic does pick up this and it can sound real bad.

    Good old atos I see are still at their old tricks, very sad people are willing to do this type of thing just for a wage.
    My Philips LFH0882 cost me £50 from 123av and it worked very well put in my bag pocket on the chair beside me with pens either side of the separate Mic, with the recorder pushed down inside the pocket. It picked up both the assessors voice and my own with the zoom mic set to most sensitive which probably wasn't necessary. I recorded everything from before I walked in the door of the centre.
    SailorSam wrote: »
    I'm registered with Benefits & Work (not as a paid member), who give advice about making claims for benefits. Yesterday i received an email which talks about trying to record interviews and recommends trying to watch 2 Tv progammes next week ...... Dispatches 8pm on Channel 4 'Undercover filming' and Panorama Bbc2 8.30 'Disabled or Faking'
    The email is very long and takes a fair bit of reading, i've tried to copy it below.

    [trimmed]
    Thanks, I will send my comments on Atos and their appalling methods.

    The online version seems a waste of time IMO, 20 mins is no where near enough time to complete it.
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