Nice people thread part 6 - thrice by twice as nice :)

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

In our marriage its 'our' money. The surviving one would expect 'our' money to pay for them. It seems to me thats the right way to be.

In my parents' marriage mum had a small state pension - dad got the lion's share - and dad provided everything. Paid all the bills, bought all the food. Mum only had to buy things for herself... which came to about £4/week, the rest was squirrelled away.

Dad had 2 work pensions and the state one. Mum had paid the extra NI while working (not the reduced women's one), so saw that bit as "her" money.

Since all money's been going to mum.... I've taken over all banking, control, decisions, payments, etc... as mum couldn't "do money" except paying for small things in cash. Give her £5 and tell her to buy crisps for £1.25 and she's sharp as anything.... give her £1000 and tell her to buy all her food, sort out the household bills and live... and she'd be down the shops with £5, hiding the rest in a drawer... and she'd have been back with crisps....

lostinrates

michaels wrote: »

Its very like that in our household except it is all DWs money...

Here its ours. Spending is not equal because needs are not. I don't need all that train oney, but also, i might buy the animal food more often.

PasturesNew

I figure, actually, it's cheaper to keep my old in a home, than to have services bought in and paid for. By the time you've added up the cost of running a house (bills), and the lost interest on money in the bank, and the cost of daily carers (2-3x a day?) and the cost of a cleaner and a gardener (once a week each), and the extra cost of food, then the cost of any day centres/clubs (for a few hours' socialisation/week)..... it's surprising how it adds up.

Then the house would need ongoing maintenance, then there's the lifeline service.

And even if you pay all of that, they're left alone most of the day, alone, in silence, alone...... maybe waiting for hours for somebody to discover they're missing or fell.....

Spirit_2

lostinrates wrote: »

They are not universally provided by state though...health care in particular. The private but free at pointof delivery and looks like nhs minor injuries and op place my mother went to last year and the year beore was excellent, truely good.

True, but relatively small scale private providers at the moment. It is changing though. We should reprise this thread in 10 years time and see what the landscape looks like.

vivatifosi

michaels wrote: »

I've been accused of many things, but never been that before....

I've never met a man that's read Chocolat before. That's from someone who works in a library...

Spirit_2

Hello catching up a bit but not able to read everything.

What is 'worrying' me is Pastures living arrangements sound precarious - is there a post that says all is sorted and she is housed & safe?

lostinrates

vivatifosi wrote: »

I've never met a man that's read Chocolat before. That's from someone who works in a library...

Dh has. He wn't smitten and didn't like the film much. He infact id ot twig they were the same immediately because of the important character change..:rotfl:

I thnk it was a classic example of book better than film.

I don't think i have anything to read tonight:eek:

lostinrates

Spirit wrote: »

Hello catching up a bit but not able to read everything.

What is 'worrying' me is Pastures living arrangements sound precarious - is there a post that says all is sorted and she is housed & safe?

No, i think she has a short term plan.

PasturesNew

Spirit wrote: »

Hello catching up a bit but not able to read everything.

What is 'worrying' me is Pastures living arrangements sound precarious - is there a post that says all is sorted and she is housed & safe?

I'm housed... and safe... at least for the next week or so.

zagubov

chewmylegoff wrote: »

Sibling has an entirely different view and is funnily enough an 'academic' who went on a year teaching English abroad to school kids and is still doing it 15 years later. She has never bothered to advance her career because she thinks she doesn't need to- everything will be provided for apparently.

I'd be tempted to cut her some slack. Promotion in education doesn't mean anything remotely like what promotion in other industries/organisations does.

silvercar wrote: »

I can't decide if it (the fancy thermostat) is gimmicky or really useful.

Gimmicky

silvercar wrote: »

The next step is then to give the parent of each child a voucher for £6k worth of education and let them choose in which state school to educate their child.

Not sure about that. The market can't help everywhere as some things are too important for that. If they privatised the emergency services, we'd soon find ouselves tired of looking for all the versions of the 999 number for KutPrice Konstables or AAAAA Ambulance Services or Fred's Fire Brigade or whatever. And let's not imagiine the ex-directory private 999-something number services you'd have to pay subscriptions for to even know the number.

You just have to have a system that just works, and not just for you. It's achievable . Many countries do it, including many in northern europe near us.

Having said this, I'm sure I've contradicted something I said a while back that there could be a massive demand for small schools for students with special needs where the parents could pay if the taxpayer doesn't want to, where the private sector could fill its boots and deliver something more important than whatever-it-is that we make in this country any more.
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