Far right on rise in Greece: giving food parcels and clothing

kabayiri

Giving away food parcels? That is so little league anyway.

They should take a leaf out of Dame Shirley's book in the 80s.

She was giving away council houses for votes!

No sense of ambition these Greeks.

A._Badger

pqrdef wrote: »

Ironic that the Chinese will now take Africa, where Europe failed.

A bit early to be counting your chickens, I'd have said. Africa has a habit of remaining itself, whatever happens to it.

Much, of course, as does China.

Thrugelmir

SailorSam wrote: »

Should we be seeing a warning from history here When the world was in depression between the two world wars people look for someone to blame. In Germany it resulted in the rise of the Nazi party who told people it was the Jews who had caused all the problems,

That's a huge over simplification of Western European history which extends back centuries before WW1. Where we in the UK seem to think it all started in 1914. Economic migrants from Europe were emigrating to the USA decades before the rise of the German National party, the forerunner to Nazism.

StevieJ

michaels wrote: »

I more imagine you as Borat TBH.

Good to hear !!!!!! get a mention

SailorSam

Itismehonest wrote: »

So many of the countries now facing real ruin seemed to join the EU because they saw it as a means of getting easy money for nothing.
In Europe's rush to get as many onboard as possible, & so become a world force commanding respect, they neglected to make sure that those countries could afford to join.
They weren't even particularly interested in whether the truth was told about financial status.

How the EU has changed over the years, there are so many members now i don't think i could name them all. I must have only been a teenager when the 'Common Market' only had 5 members and President DeGaul did all he could to make sure the Uk didn't become number 6. I was to young to remember what was going on at the time.

Itismehonest

SailorSam wrote: »

How the EU has changed over the years, there are so many members now i don't think i could name them all. I must have only been a teenager when the 'Common Market' only had 5 members and President DeGaul did all he could to make sure the Uk didn't become number 6. I was to young to remember what was going on at the time.

I remember voting No to staying in the ECC as it was then.
I often wonder how many people who voted in 1975 to stay in the European Community Common market (in itself a fair idea) look at what it turned into & think :eek:
Water under the bridge, though.

The pessimist in me can't see how Greece can possibly stay in the Euro. Trying all desperate means to do so is just delaying the inevitable, as far as I can see.
Whatever happens now it will be incredibly tough on the Greeks.

The optimist in me says if you have to live on bread & water then it's better to do it somewhere the sun shines.

Thrugelmir

Itismehonest wrote: »

I remember voting No to staying in the ECC as it was then.
I often wonder how many people who voted in 1975 to stay in the European Community Common market (in itself a fair idea) look at what it turned into & think :eek:

Principle is good. Implementation has been poor with politics ruling the roost. Rather than sometimes pure common sense.

pqrdef

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Principle is good.

I don't think they've worked out what the principle is yet. A free trade area can't just be a free-for-all where some countries wipe out the economies of other countries. If rich countries get richer and poor countries get poorer, inevitably it will break up.

A._Badger

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Principle is good. Implementation has been poor with politics ruling the roost. Rather than sometimes pure common sense.

That rather depends what you think the principle was. The sanitised version waffles a lot about co-operation and free trade, yet the architects were clearly aiming at the eradication of national governments and the creation of a single new state. It is hard to see what would be good about that, particularly in the light of our own experience of over-centralised government.

Pobby

Tbh, I think this is the start. I have friends living in the Eruo zone. Talking to a mate in Dublin last week. He tells me of folks handing back the keys as properties are in total free fall.
Greece is a basket case with Portugal and Spain coming up to the same level. Italy is in the brown stuff.
Maybe a solution is to get rid of the whole rotten ship. Revert to the original currencies.
One thing is for certain, in my mind, is the common currency has had it.
Sad to say, many will be very hurt by this yet we can no longer carry on with this.