Not disabled at all parking in supermarkets.

fluffnutter

sillygoose wrote: »

It offends me because they block spaces real disabled people need, and artificially inflate the number of disabled spaces needed so less are allocated for normal use by law abiding people with morals.

I do wonder if this is indeed a problem. Most places I seem to visit have completely full 'normal' spaces yet there are numerous disabled spaces free. AFAIK companies are under obligation to mark 6% of parking spaces as disabled. Are 6% of drivers disabled? I don't know, but I do know that spaces are often free.

Perhaps it's erring on the side of caution to ensure that a disabled person can always get a space. I guess that's an argument with some merit.

There's the other problem of disabled spaces marked on the road outside houses. My friend works for the highways agency and she says that anyone registered disabled can ask for a marked disabled spot outside their house. Problem is these people then move and the next owner is hardly likely to fess up and ask the council to paint out the disabled bay. They'll just take the risk and park in it knowing that at least they always have a spot! My friend reckons that by 2050 the whole of Portsmouth will be one big disabled parking bay

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fluffnutter wrote: »

Perhaps it's erring on the side of caution to ensure that a disabled person can always get a space. I guess that's an argument with some merit.

If 6% of spaces are disabled, in a 100 space car park there will be 94 standard spaces and 6 disabled ones. If the car park is full, chances are there'll be a 15 times longer wait for a driver to return and free up a disabled space than to free up a free standard space.

So really there should be an over-catering of disabled spaces for just this reason.

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sillygoose wrote: »

I spend a lot of my life in and out of public car parks and I see a lot of very expensive cars with blue badges in disabled spaces with a pretty healthy looking lone driver. I believe the blue badges have a photo of the person its issued for on it? but these driver always place it covered up.

Of course a disabled person can have any car they desire as their right, but a low slung Aston Martin doesn't seem very easy to get in and out of or a huge BMW X6 very easy to park if you can't turn around well. I am sure these people have an aunt tucked away in some care home and they have applied for the badge to supposedly take out 'Aunty' (if she is lucky). Basically they have big expensive cars that won't fit normal spaces and think they are too important to obey the rules in life us poor mugs have to.

It offends me because they block spaces real disabled people need, and artificially inflate the number of disabled spaces needed so less are allocated for normal use by law abiding people with morals.

You seem to be confusing two unrelated issues; drivers abusing the blue badge scheme, and drivers of nice cars with blue badges.

I suggest you reconsider your logic.

adouglasmhor

ellay864 wrote: »

It is tricky but I do think if people are able to run into a store then why do they need a space that gives more room and closer proximity.

Maybe they have a disability which affected their continence and were running to the toilets.

JohalaReewi

Maybe supermarkets should have wider parking bays for everyone not just disabled and 'parent with children'?

Over the years, the average width of a car has increased but the 'official' width for parking has not increased and in many car parks, has decreased.

adouglasmhor

im-lost wrote: »

If you have narcolepsy should you even be driving? hmmmmm

You get blue badges to help with being a disabled car user; that includes passengers as well as drivers.

munchpot

fluffnutter wrote: »

I wouldn't park in a disabled spot. Seems rude to me. However, I make a point of trying to park in P&C parking simply because it makes a certain type of parent apoplectic with rage

My mother has a blue badge and I was with her when she popped to our local Tescos. (She's 73 and I'm 46) All the disabled spaces were taken with a few of them by people with no BB's. She parked in a Parent and Child space - dispalyed her badge and we started walking off. Another shopper started shouting at her that it was for Parents and Children. Her reply - he's my son and I'm his mum! To top it all the woman who had a go at my mum got into her car which was, yes you guessed it, parked in a disabled bay with no badge on display

Dave_C_2

Thanks for the replies, I should have realised that some disabilities are not obvious, apologies to anyone I offended.

I was complaining about the abuse of the system which is real!

Dave

mttylad

You can have incontinence problems and need to run to the toilet yet not have a bb. I have bladder problems and when I need to go I need to go.

So to expand the discussion, what to do once I get there, if the gents are full then the disabled toilets are fair game to me as they are not specifically for disabled users only

bigbulldog

sillygoose wrote: »

I spend a lot of my life in and out of public car parks and I see a lot of very expensive cars with blue badges in disabled spaces with a pretty healthy looking lone driver. I believe the blue badges have a photo of the person its issued for on it? but these driver always place it covered up.

Of course a disabled person can have any car they desire as their right, but a low slung Aston Martin doesn't seem very easy to get in and out of or a huge BMW X6 very easy to park if you can't turn around well. I am sure these people have an aunt tucked away in some care home and they have applied for the badge to supposedly take out 'Aunty' (if she is lucky). Basically they have big expensive cars that won't fit normal spaces and think they are too important to obey the rules in life us poor mugs have to.

It offends me because they block spaces real disabled people need, and artificially inflate the number of disabled spaces needed so less are allocated for normal use by law abiding people with morals.

What the hell is it really to do with you what kind of car a disabled person drives as it's there choice not yours.

My wife is registered disabled and her lifespan will be cut short because of it and has a blue badge and drives a coupe and that's a problem for you

You speak of morals I don't think you have any, people like you are ignorant and bigots.

And I'm glad it offends you.!!!!!!