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  • Mara69
    Mara69 Posts: 1,409 Forumite
    Derivative wrote: »
    Perhaps, but we're talking about someone who's been in the forces for presumably a fair few years.

    Not at all. It's tickled me that the OP has mentioned at least twice that his friend is ex-army - and then says he is under 21. If he joined up at 16 and left at 20, he's only done 4 years! Or course, he could have joined up at 18 and left at 19.....

    ETA Ah, I see it was a mere 2 years.
  • prowla
    prowla Posts: 13,989 Forumite
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    Some of the suggestions here are really funny!

    The bloke should work for just under £5 an hour, making approx £40/day, of which he should buy a 1-way ticket on the train (£5) to work and get a taxi home for (optimistically) £10, and then he should save up the remainder to buy a car, insure it (being a young driver with no experience and no NCB), and maintain it?

    Assuming he needs to eat (say £15/day), then there would be approximately £10/day left.

    Oops - forgot about rent, heating, clothing, essentials.

    How exactly would he be able to save up for a car and run it?
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    prowla wrote: »
    Some of the suggestions here are really funny!

    The bloke should work for just under £5 an hour, making approx £40/day, of which he should buy a 1-way ticket on the train (£5) to work and get a taxi home for (optimistically) £10, and then he should save up the remainder to buy a car, insure it (being a young driver with no experience and no NCB), and maintain it?

    Assuming he needs to eat (say £15/day), then there would be approximately £10/day left.

    Oops - forgot about rent, heating, clothing, essentials.

    How exactly would he be able to save up for a car and run it?

    £15 a day for food - what's he eating?:eek:

    I think you're on the wrong site if you think it's normal for a young single person to spend £105 per week for food! £15/25 per week more like!
  • Derivative
    Derivative Posts: 1,698 Forumite
    Some mention those that travel over an hour to work - yes, some do, 40% tax payers who travel in style on commuter trains, not guys on basically 4 pounds an hour on a bus! Get real!

    Is this some sort of joke? Honestly?
    Plenty of people on NMW travel an hour to get to work.
    Why would you assume it's limited to those on high wages?

    I would say the vast majority of my school friends travel to our hometown's city centre for work. Some of them moved closer, but many take buses from the outskirts that take an hour. My sister's bus to work takes 1h 20mins, or 40 mins if you cycle (more direct route). Yes, NMW. (NMW for under 18's, even!)

    At the end of the day, if the choice is between no job, and taking a bus, I know I'd rather have the job.

    This train journey does sound nonsensical (too expensive), but an hours' travel is really not out of the question, I have no idea why people would think it is.
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  • Derivative
    Derivative Posts: 1,698 Forumite
    edited 25 April 2012 at 9:14AM
    Agreed on the NMW - although not if you have a partner to support.
    But JSA? Which is £71 a week, or £111.45 for a couple. If you are under 25 as my friend is, it's £56.25 a week. Not much left over once the bills are paid and food's on the table.

    I'm not talking about saving on JSA, what I mean is, spending all of the money you got while in work.

    Once you get down to the £8000 cap at which you can claim full benefits, I see no reason why you would have to dip into savings.
    prowla wrote: »
    Some of the suggestions here are really funny!

    The bloke should work for just under £5 an hour, making approx £40/day, of which he should buy a 1-way ticket on the train (£5) to work and get a taxi home for (optimistically) £10, and then he should save up the remainder to buy a car, insure it (being a young driver with no experience and no NCB), and maintain it?

    Assuming he needs to eat (say £15/day), then there would be approximately £10/day left.

    Oops - forgot about rent, heating, clothing, essentials.

    How exactly would he be able to save up for a car and run it?

    Probably because the train wasn't mentioned initially.

    A "1 hour" bus journey home from work costs on the order of £15/week anywhere I've lived, less if you buy weekly/annual tickets.

    And if it was a 1 hour bus journey, you wouldn't have to get a taxi every single day because some days you could cycle to save money.

    As stated above, now that we know it's a train journey, none of this makes sense.

    And the suggestion was to get a moped, which is an outlay of about £1300 for the vehicle, insurance, and safety gear. Car later, hopefully after working up to a better job.
    Said Aristippus, “If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.”
    Said Diogenes, “Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.”[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][/FONT]
  • aneres
    aneres Posts: 432 Forumite
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    Hi, what does his job seeker agreement say on it. Does it say he is willing to work shifts ?. There is normally a bit for what hours you are willing to work due to situations like this where he can't get home from work due to transport issues. The best thing to do is have a look at it and if it says willing to work any hours get it changed and explain why to the advisor. Unfortunatley if he did not put restrictions on the hours he is willing to work he will have to go to the interview and explain he does not have transport and i would imagine that would be the end of it as they will probably find someone else with transport.

    I agree his Jobseekers Agreement needs to be looked at. I would get it amended to 1 hours travel within public transport restrictions.

    The travel time to work is already 90 minutes after 13 weeks of a claim and from next month it is going up to 90 minutes from the start of a claim.
  • baza52
    baza52 Posts: 3,029 Forumite
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    Derivative wrote: »
    snip....

    And the suggestion was to get a moped, which is an outlay of about £1300 for the vehicle, insurance, and safety gear. Car later, hopefully after working up to a better job.

    So if he saved 3 hours pay a week (£15) he would be able to afford the bike in a year and a half.....

    lol
  • tescobabe69
    tescobabe69 Posts: 7,504 Forumite
    Thats the trouble with the unemployed, no imagination.

    When he finishes work at night order a curry/chinese take away from a supplier local to his home, when it arrives at his workplace tell the delivery driver you left your wallet at home, magically you have a lift home.
  • melx
    melx Posts: 80 Forumite
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    Derivative wrote: »
    Get taxis until he has enough saved to buy a moped, moped until he has enough saved to buy a car.

    Sorted.

    I mean, that's if he actually is a jobseeker.


    How is he meant to afford these taxis and at the same time save for a moped? Maybe the job centre will give him the cash advance until he gets paid?...Get in the real world!!

    He could however share lifts, use other means of public transport or get a bike all more realistic than this ridiculous post.
  • Derivative
    Derivative Posts: 1,698 Forumite
    baza52 wrote: »
    So if he saved 3 hours pay a week (£15) he would be able to afford the bike in a year and a half.....

    lol

    If I turn the tap on 1/1000th of a turn, it will take me hours to fill a glass of water.

    The above sentence has about as much merit as what you've just said.
    Said Aristippus, “If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.”
    Said Diogenes, “Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.”[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][/FONT]
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