Parking with a blue badge when looking "normal.."

Soapn

I realise it's like talking to a brick wall but it's the people who ARE TAKING THE MICK of the benefit system that iritate me, not the ones who ARE GENUINELY ill, and physically NEED the BB.
so quit with calling me a bigot

mazza111

Soapn - I have never called you a bigot, however, some of your views come across as bigotted.

If someone can post on the internet they can do some data entry at home? Come on now. Because some people can spend an hour a day for enjoyment, doesn't mean they can sit there for a couple of hours at a time to work.

As for the cars thing. Some people buy these cars and then become disabled. Should they just throw their cars away and start again?

There is a lot of abuse of the systems that are in place, no one doubts that, but you have to practically jump through hoops to get ESA and/or DLA these days. I very much doubt there are people getting these benefits who don't need them.

Between medicals and failed medicals and appeals, that are completed by ATOS who are next to useless, they'll soon have us sat at a pc for 10 minutes at a time doing data entry. Have you considered applying for a job with them?

I have worked all my adult life, even had a part time job before I could work full time. Now I feel I can't (ATOS say I can't either btw) and feel rather patronised by posts of yours and other views like yours. I would gladly do your job, you have my knees and hips and I'll gladly stand in a shop all day

Parva

Soapn wrote: »

I realise it's like talking to a brick wall but it's the people who ARE TAKING THE MICK of the benefit system that iritate me, not the ones who ARE GENUINELY ill, and physically NEED the BB.
so quit with calling me a bigot

Perhaps you would like to share with us what level of disability you have, what you have been awarded and whether you are approaching the magic 65 to avoid the upcoming disaster that is called PIP? No? Somehow I expect there will either be no response or one that is even more fabricated than an old council housing estate. Go fishing elsewhere.

Soapn

nowhere near 65, coming up to 40

Parva wrote: »

Perhaps you would like to share with us what level of disability you have, what you have been awarded and whether you are approaching the magic 65 to avoid the upcoming disaster that is called PIP? No? Somehow I expect there will either be no response or one that is even more fabricated than an old council housing estate. Go fishing elsewhere.

Ellejmorgan

So where do I park if I'm disabled and a parent ???

soapn I'm sure you have the answer...;)

Lum

Ellejmorgan wrote: »

So where do I park if I'm disabled and a parent ???

If your children are with you, park in whichever you feel like.

If they are not with you, park in the disabled bays and use the P&C bays as an overflow.

Parva

Soapn wrote: »

nowhere near 65, coming up to 40

Ok, so that answers one question. Given your hatred of anyone that qualifies for a blue badge and / or DLA would you care to elaborate on which you have been refused and why you feel that the decision was unjust? I don't see any other reason for this hatred that you spread but I'm happy to be educated.

Lum

mazza111 wrote: »

There is a lot of abuse of the systems that are in place, no one doubts that, but you have to practically jump through hoops to get ESA and/or DLA these days. I very much doubt there are people getting these benefits who don't need them.

The government's own research, as quoted by Boris Johnson and reported in the Daily Mail of all places shows that the level of fraud for DLA claims is around 0.5%.

That is a much much lower fraud rate than for most other benefits out there. Anyone who has ever seen a DLA form will understand why.

Broke_n_Broken

After reading the posts here, admittedly just skimming some, I can't believe no-one has come to the defence of the tutters & lookers.
I admit it, I am one.
As someone with what's nicely classed as an "unseen impairment" by my local council, I know whats it's like to look "normal" yet not be able to function "normally".

However, I and most of the others actually feel that we are doing a service, of sorts, for disabled people. (That's the reason it's mostly older people, the young'uns generally don't care.)

Disabled bays have been abused a lot and some see themselves as protecting them from the cheats.
This is why they go away & look sheepish when the walking aids/wheelchairs come out.
If they had a problem with disabled people, or

Soapn wrote: »

the swanky cars in the disabled spaces

they would stick around!
There is no malice intended and you would find most would help out if asked.
As pointed out here, misuse of a supermarket disabled bay is not a crime, it is a social crime though, and disabled people have others, misguided as we are, on their side.

Ignorance of unseen disabilities is not a crime, nor is having one, next time you see me looking/tutting feel free to enlighten me.:A

TeeferTiger

I'm now 31, with chronic migraines and fibromyalgia. I tend not to drive now (don't feel safe to because of auras etc) and get very tired when walking with pain soon following. I don't have a BB because I'm still fighting the DWP for my ESA and DLA, I also don't feel ready to accept that I can't manage to walk just that little bit further (even though my body is telling me it can't!).

Unfortunately, it seems to be the way around here that as soon as you get your pension, you apply for a BB. And as this area is retirement central, even if I had a BB, I wouldn't be able to park in a designated bay because they're full up with old dears' cars. Apparently 8% of the car park has to be designated for BB holders, but they're always full. When I was taking my neighbour (who has a BB and double twisted spine) out shopping last year, I usually had to drop them off and then go park somewhere else. There are just as many parent and child spaces at our local supermarkets as there are disabled bays. And even then when my neighbour (who is only a few years older than me) gets out with their stick, we get glared at for being in a disabled bay! Unfortunately, my neighbour is also one of these who is of the mindset that no one is as ill as she is. Yes, they've got a fair bit wrong with them, but I don't need reminding all the time.

I often say that missing a limb would be "easier" (obviously it wouldn't be) than putting up with the sh*t I get from the DWP and other people who say "Only a migraine? Can't you take some Migraleve?". Yeah, I *could* take some... they wouldn't touch the pain, nor stop the flashing/spots in my eyes and the feeling that I'm not in my own body. And as for the FM, they've either never heard of it or tell me "I know someone who had that, they died". Well, that makes me feel a whole lot better doesn't it?! lol BTW, I'm sure they got FM mixed up with something else... What's wrong with me isn't visible. If I could remove the bits that hurt, I'd be dead.