Pre-school workers get paid peanuts...!!!

BusyLizzie_3

emilyt wrote:

I know inkie. My FIL is one and the pay is terrible and the job 24/7.He must be a saint.

My FIL is a vicar too!

BusyLizzie_3

Rachie_B wrote:

that is very good for pre school staff wage !

I know, Rachie B - wages at our pre-school are definitely much higher than average. As others have said, it's a shame that those who do one of the most responsible jobs, educating and nurturing our children, have such low status and are comparatively poorly paid.

Mics_chick

Apologies if I'm wrong about retail wages but I was looking in my local paper fairly recently and several supermarkets were looking for new staff and all of them were offering the same hourly rate which was £7.45. The supermarkets were Sainsburys, Lidl and Morrisons so I thought this was the normal wage. After what a few posters have said on here though I'm wondering whether I'm not remembering it correctly and they were advertising for several different positions (inc supervisory roles) and the wages were UP TO £7.45... Just not sure

But it still does concern me that they don't get sick pay at all or holiday pay for time they HAVE to take off so for my local pre-school I'm going to do all that I can to help them...

Does anyone know of a pre-school near them that is sponsored by local business at all?

Savvy_Sue

Mics_chick wrote: »

But it still does concern me that they don't get sick pay at all or holiday pay for time they HAVE to take off so for my local pre-school I'm going to do all that I can to help them...

As an employer, you HAVE to pay Statutory Sick Pay (some of which you MAY be able to claim back), and you HAVE to give paid leave.

I didn't pick this up from your original post, but just because your staff only work for 45 weeks of the year doesn't mean they are not entitled to ANY holiday pay. Employers HAVE to give 20 days paid leave each year, obviously it's pro rata for part-timers or people who don't work all through the year, and it can include bank holidays. It's going up to 24 days this October, and 28 the year after.

The ACAS website will advise how to work it out for people who don't work all through the year.

But when I was doing Payroll for an out of school club where we had a lot of staff working either school holidays or term-time but not both, I calculated everybody's entitlement to paid leave by the hour: IIRC once you'd worked 12 hours, you were entitled to an hour's holiday pay. I tended to just add it on to their last wages: so if someone worked just the Easter term I'd pay what they had earned at the start of the Easter holidays.

You can require them to take their paid holiday when you don't want them working, but you can't not give them ANY pro rata holiday pay!

vickyj

my friend is an NNEB qualified nanny she worked for 4 years as a nursery supervisor then after having her own children she works as a cleaner as she cannot afford to do the job she trained for and pay out of school hours childcare.
Its wrong

amjax

That £7.45 an hour is the Bosses wages you must realise who do lots of hours unpaid work too!

Rachie_B

vickyj wrote: »

my friend is an NNEB qualified nanny she worked for 4 years as a nursery supervisor then after having her own children she works as a cleaner as she cannot afford to do the job she trained for and pay out of school hours childcare.
Its wrong

Could she look for nannying work whereby she would be able to take her own child along ? / pick up after school

some parents dont mind this.I have my son after school aswell as my charges.

She would have to take a reduced rate but then she wouldnt be paying out anything in childcare

https://www.gumtree.com
https://www.nannyjob.co.uk
https://www.netmums.com

are good for advertising / looking for childcare work

else she could join an agency

OR what about registering as a childminder,ok its not nursery / nannying work but at least she will be doing ehat she enjoy s: looking after children & educating them

Mics_chick

amjax wrote: »

That £7.45 an hour is the Bosses wages you must realise who do lots of hours unpaid work too!

I've already realised after how many supermarket peeps have posted that they get paid somewhere around the minimum wage for a basic shop assistant job.
Also all of the staff have said that they work at least 50% more hours unpaid due to necessary paperwork/computer records/staff meetings/organising fund-raising activities/etc and as I said in the original post they don't get paid sick pay or get paid at all for 7 weeks of the year!!!
The minimum qualifications are going up all the time so they have to keep studying to get the next level without any incentive or benefit to themselves at all

Savvy_Sue

Mics_chick wrote: »

The minimum qualifications are going up all the time so they have to keep studying to get the next level without any incentive or benefit to themselves at all

Again, at the Out of School Club we always paid them for the hours they spent attending courses, AND the course fees - although in this area most of the courses were free or VERY cheap. Which was actually a right pain in the backside as many of our staff were students who'd be with us for less than a year, and then off doing something else! But we felt it was the least we could do: we had to have qualified staff, so training them all seemed the only way to go!

I wouldn't say it was no benefit to do these courses: it does widen the number of jobs you can apply for!

UKTigerlily

Lidl & Aldi pay more but it's because they have to do everything from cleaning to cashier to shelf stacking etc with Asda we can stick to one area. Tesco pay best, then Asda, then Sainsbury's & Morrisons. Still with the amount Asda make we should get at least £6!