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JSA Sanctions - Beer Money for Claimant Advisers?

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  • baza52
    baza52 Posts: 3,029 Forumite
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    McKneff wrote: »
    If the claimants dont toe the line, and they know they will get sanctioned, what's the problem.

    If they want the money that other people are paying into the tax system they have to prove they deserve it by doing as they are told.
    After all, we have to do as we're told and get up for work each morning or we dont get paid. Speaking metaphorically of course cos Im retired but you get my drift.
    Nothing wrong with that.

    Can you imagine getting to work 1 minute late because of a delayed train/bus accident and your employer stopped your whole weeks pay for it.
  • baza52 wrote: »
    Can you imagine getting to work 1 minute late because of a delayed train/bus accident and your employer stopped your whole weeks pay for it.

    Imagine that you only had to go to work for 10 minutes a fortnight and you were late for that single point out of 75hours for which you are being paid.

    Would you employer be harsh to not believe you are trying hard enough to turn up?
  • sofaman
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    Imagine that you only had to go to work for 10 minutes a fortnight and you were late for that single point out of 75hours for which you are being paid.

    Would you employer be harsh to not believe you are trying hard enough to turn up?

    Erm, where did you get the 10-minutes of work from? Looking for work is a full-time endevour!
  • baza52
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    Imagine that you only had to go to work for 10 minutes a fortnight and you were late for that single point out of 75hours for which you are being paid.

    Would you employer be harsh to not believe you are trying hard enough to turn up?

    Imagine the employer assumed you were wrong and you had to appeal to get your wages back even tho it would take weeks.
    Oh and then you have tell the bank you cant pay the mortgage etc etc.

    Why are all unemployed people looked upon as being a scrounger?
  • baza52
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    edited 22 April 2012 at 9:03PM
    Imagine that you only had to go to work for 10 minutes a fortnight and you were late for that single point out of 75hours for which you are being paid.

    Yes imagine..... would you be happy to lose 75 hours pay for being late?
    Sometimes its unaviodable
  • McKneff
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    baza52 wrote: »
    Imagine the employer assumed you were wrong and you had to appeal to get your wages back even tho it would take weeks.
    Oh and then you have tell the bank you cant pay the mortgage etc etc.

    Why are all unemployed people looked upon as being a scrounger?

    Of course they arent,
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • Notmyrealname
    Notmyrealname Posts: 4,003 Forumite
    sofaman wrote: »
    Erm, where did you get the 10-minutes of work from? Looking for work is a full-time endevour!

    That might be but signing on is a 10 minute endeavour.
  • Notmyrealname
    Notmyrealname Posts: 4,003 Forumite
    baza52 wrote: »
    Why are all unemployed people looked upon as being a scrounger?

    Because huge great swathes of them are including those looking hard for work but who refuse to take a job in a factory on a production line or cleaning for NMW.
  • baza52
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    Because huge great swathes of them are including those looking hard for work but who refuse to take a job in a factory on a production line or cleaning for NMW.

    Here we go again, cleaning jobs for the unemployed....

    There are NO minimum wage jobs going that 20+ people are not applying for.
    You HAVE to apply now or you get a sanction.

    Oh wait, there are loads of jobs for those that want em
  • baza52
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    That might be but signing on is a 10 minute endeavour.

    You could argue that "clocking on" at work takes less than a minute.
    If circumstances mean your delayed (with good reason) is it fair you should lose ALL your pay and be made to appeal to get it?
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