carrers allowance and change in incapacity benefit

jet44

Maybe something to do with them having paid into the system for many years already.
A lot of the older generation also fought in wars in order to keep this country (and you) free.

mo1_2

my dad has served in germany and france 1941 till 1944,hes worked all his life from being 14,i have worked since being 16 my husband has always worked my two sons have always worked,so i dont see has i am asking for anything i and my family have not worked for.

Chrissiew

Soapn wrote: »

if you are capable of caring for someone else even if it isn't physical problems you are claiming for, then how come you can't get some kind of job?
That always astounds me.:eek:

Everything astounds you when it comes to benefit claimants because thats just you, putting people down seems to be your mission in life, doesnt matter how disabled they are, to you they should be slogging their guts out.

Two disabled people can care for each other, one may need help with personal things, the other may need help in being reminded they need to take their medication, or to turn the gas off, anything that requires the safety of the person.

Just because you are disabled doesnt mean you cant, in some way, care for another disabled person who lives with you, even if you are immobile, you can still care for them in various ways.

Chrissiew

Soapn wrote: »

sure this will go down really well, but why should the government be responsible for paying for people's close relatives?

Because this is jolly old England, we get free health care as well dont yer know.

What do you expect the goverment to do with the old people whose close relatives either cannot, or dont want to, care for them? would it please you more to have them left alone to starve or left laying on the floor after a fall?

Most elderly people have work most of their lives, because in their younger days they had to, they didnt have the luxury of just deciding that they wanted to laze away at home while claiming benefits to care for their family. Most of them fought in the war as well because they had no choice, they were called up and had to serve, no applying for the army like they do now, they had to go or they would end up in prison.

The elderly deserve to be looked after, and to pay someone £58 a week to do that saves the goverment thousands of pounds, it would cost so much more to keep someone in a home or have to send a private carer.

anguk

Soapn wrote: »

sure this will go down really well, but why should the government be responsible for paying for people's close relatives?

Well in my case it's because if my husband wasn't disabled I could go out to work and earn a living. I'm fit and healthy and could work but I have to stay home to look after my husband. I could actually get a job being a home carer for other disabled or elderly people, I'd be paid a lot more and do less hours than I do now.

But if I went out to work the state would have to pay for carers and district nurses to come to our house every day to care for my husband so it's actually cheaper for the government to pay me Carer's Allowance (which is roughly about £1.50 per hour and that's assuming you only do the minimum of 35 hours a week).

mo1_2

thanks for the support,i was begining to think it was me and the world had gone mad?my dad might be 92 and me ill but hes still my family,we try our best,i just wondered about carers allowance,i wasnt looking at something for nothing or scrounging as was suggested,(thats how i took it)

fogartyblue.

Soapn wrote: »

if you are capable of caring for someone else even if it isn't physical problems you are claiming for, then how come you can't get some kind of job?
That always astounds me.:eek:

Might I suggest that you take some time out and read all about why Carers Allowance is awarded.

Your comments clearly indicate to me that you know very little and as such it would be preferable if you kept your opinions to yourself in future!

Just leave those that actually do know what the conditions of entitlement are to give decent advise.

If everybody that claims CA and and are claiming JSA, ESA, DLA, or AA as well, were to be tested in the way you suggest, very few would be entitled to the benefit and would put this country on it's knees with having to find the money to pay for 'paid for carers'.

In addition, no doubt you would suggest that those claiming the benefits above that are able to use their computer and post on this site should really be working.

Anubis_2

anguk wrote: »

Well in my case it's because if my husband wasn't disabled I could go out to work and earn a living. I'm fit and healthy and could work but I have to stay home to look after my husband. I could actually get a job being a home carer for other disabled or elderly people, I'd be paid a lot more and do less hours than I do now.

But if I went out to work the state would have to pay for carers and district nurses to come to our house every day to care for my husband so it's actually cheaper for the government to pay me Carer's Allowance (which is roughly about £1.50 per hour and that's assuming you only do the minimum of 35 hours a week).

Spot on. It's the same for my husband who cares for me. The fact is he does so much more than 35 hours a week so cannot get a job - plus I need constant supervision. This limits his life incredibly.

So.....the Gov is not stupid and realises if someone needs a substantial amount of care, it costs them a lot less to offer a bit of recompense for those why may not be able to work or only find limited work as they have to care for someone.

In a lot of cases, when it's family looking after family, the CA isn't actually received, only a smaller premium is......

Anubis_2

mo1 wrote: »

thanks for the support,i was begining to think it was me and the world had gone mad?my dad might be 92 and me ill but hes still my family,we try our best,i just wondered about carers allowance,i wasnt looking at something for nothing or scrounging as was suggested,(thats how i took it)

You should have had an underlying entitlement on IB. Give this number a call and discuss your options with them, they are very helpful, but you can claim it on ESA but may only get the £30 premium.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Dl1/Directories/DG_10011169

donny_osmonds_mad_fan

you can claim both, I do, I am in the wrg ESA, I can claim CA because my 2 yr old who has cerebral palsy and hearing problems is entitled to middle rate dla so by default you can claim CA. I claimed ESA was put into the wrg after the medical, so I get whatever the weekly rate is and they simply take away the £55 (now £58) CA out of that so it worked out I was getting around £40 per week ESA (contributions based) but i am sure i read you can get an extra £31 payment if you get esa income based and claim CA

what was that saying about walking a mile in other peoples shoes? re previous comments on others circumstances...