Do I need to pay this?

pendulum

Mr_Thrifty wrote: »

For the sake of £20, I'd just pay it. These sorts of people take it all the way

Some clown told me similar when I got my private parking ticket, I'm glad I ignored their rubbish "advice".

System

Thanks very much guys, I suspected as much.

now, next question.....lets say I parked there every single day as it is handy for my work.....?

Joe_Horner

beany_bot wrote: »

Thanks very much guys, I suspected as much.

now, next question.....lets say I parked there every single day as it is handy for my work.....?

That might well cause problems depending how organised they are because if they DO decide to go to court (for all the tickets they start issuing day in / day out) then it would be very hard indeed for you to claim you weren't aware / didn't agree to the conditions.

You're also unlikely to find much sympathy from the judge if they can show you're deliberately parking on "their" land rather than getting caught inadvertently and then ignoring tickets. He might just think you're taking the p*ss . When it comes to assessing a balance of probabilities, how your actions "come across" can be pretty important!

rev_henry

beany_bot wrote: »

Thanks very much guys, I suspected as much.

now, next question.....lets say I parked there every single day as it is handy for my work.....?

Semi regularly I'd say yes, do it, but if it really is every single day I'd be inclined to agree with Joe although I'm quite cautious with these things. Some may say otherwise.

clangnuts

Any company that uses Comic Sans in their "official" notices, should be ignored.

Strider590

At no point did you enter a contract with these people, therefore they have no grounds on which to "fine" you.

At worst you've committed a civil trespass, for which they could claim damages, BUT they'd have to prove beyond reasonable doubt, how much damage you caused by being there.

Chances are they don't even work for the landowner.

Sgt_Pepper_2

Strider590 wrote: »

At no point did you enter a contract with these people, therefore they have no grounds on which to "fine" you.

At worst you've committed a civil trespass, for which they could claim damages, BUT they'd have to prove beyond reasonable doubt, how much damage you caused by being there.

Chances are they don't even work for the landowner.

If its civil trespass proof is on the balance of probability.

Trebor16

Mr_Thrifty wrote: »

For the sake of £20, I'd just pay it. These sorts of people take it all the way and start adding on huge charges then threatening baliffs and court action etc if you don't pay. It's not worth the stress, particularly for a wealthy merchant banker such as yourself.

Mr Thrifty, take a look in the parking section to see the real status quo. They can threaten all they like but they are empty threats with no substance.

Trebor16

Joe_Horner wrote: »

That might well cause problems depending how organised they are because if they DO decide to go to court (for all the tickets they start issuing day in / day out) then it would be very hard indeed for you to claim you weren't aware / didn't agree to the conditions.

You're also unlikely to find much sympathy from the judge if they can show you're deliberately parking on "their" land rather than getting caught inadvertently and then ignoring tickets. He might just think you're taking the p*ss . When it comes to assessing a balance of probabilities, how your actions "come across" can be pretty important!

That was the issue with the Thomas case. It wasn't a one off but he had parked there a number of times. He also admitted on a forum that he was the driver then tried to deny he was the driver when he was taken to court.

Joe_Horner

Trebor16 wrote: »

That was the issue with the Thomas case. It wasn't a one off but he had parked there a number of times. He also admitted on a forum that he was the driver then tried to deny he was the driver when he was taken to court.

Ahh yes, the good old [STRIKE]Thompson[/STRIKE] Thomas machine-gun defence:

"If I throw every possible defence at the Court then one of them might stick - even if they contradict each other."

No, you'll just end up with a judge who doesn't believe you