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  • Parva wrote: »
    Translated = my daughter lives with me but I don't declare her as living here in order that I can claim benefits for being a single household occupier. All of a sudden I am going to have to pay for the 2nd bedroom that is empty as my daughter only stays there every other night. Is that right?

    nice to see you automatically jump to that conclusion

    my daughter lives with her mum, her mum gets 100% of all benefits, i dont even know what ones she gets

    she has a full room at her mums and mine

    i have SMA type 3, google it and you will see its a very hard thing to live with and ill eventually end up needing 24hr care but i try to put off help as long as possible as once i stop doing stuff for myself its a slippery slope to ending up unable to do anything

    nice to see you decided that im trying to con the benefit system though
  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 12,994 Forumite
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    they wont make any exception for the fact that your daughter stays, as she already has a bedroom at her mums. the state will not provide her with 2 rooms just because the family unit has broken down.

    even disabled people have no automatic right to a second bedroom.

    only if you need a night carer that doesnt normally reside in your property, woulld you be entitled to the second bedroon.


    had a visit from my housing officer today.
    he seems to think that these changes havent yet been implemented into law, and also seems to think that the rules may change before next april .... in the same way the new riles regarding child benefit did.

    i dont know if this was just his opinion, or if there are whispers that we mere mortals arent aware of!
  • princessdon
    princessdon Posts: 6,902 Forumite
    They can't have a night carer in a separate room - the room is their daughters (and has been since birth) so not as a carer.
  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 12,994 Forumite
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    the room is not the daughters,#
    the daughters room is at her mothers, who claims all the child related benefits.

    so it is an 'unoccupied' room
  • actually its been her room since she was born in 1998 but as my bungalow is adapted for me when me and her mum went our separate ways in 2002 after 7 years she left and got a new house not me so my daughter has had that room since 6 months before she was born

    there are housing issues but its better to start it where a couple might have 3 or 4 bed house but the kids have gone, even that is unfair as a house was meant to be for life

    in my road there are 4 bungalows and all of us have been here from 20 years (me) to 10 years and going by this we all have to move

    in my village there is one 1 room bungalow and three 1 room flats

    would they want me to move out of my village where all my friends & family are?
  • My point is that even if they "allowed" an extra room for carers - as things are (child age and his current health) - this is his daughters room. I can't see OP preventing his child from regular visits he clearly enjoys because he needs to keep it spare for a "carer".
  • true

    my brother has the same thing as me but needs 24hr care and i worry that as i get older ill end up like that then they would have to move me again

    i know its new legislation but this will cause so much grief and upheaval for people and get so much bad feeling will they cancel it?

    also are they stopping paying council tax too?

    we could just stop the wars in countries we have no right to be in, buy all the injured soldiers a house they need & pay for all their medical bills then with whats left sort out this bedroom tax thing and still have enough money to pave the streets with gold
  • No they are not "stopping Council Tax" per se. They have cut the grant given to councils and each council is doing this differently

    eg mine is taking 20% off benefit claimants (disabled exluded) others have different rules. Only your council can answer and they are now open for consultation before April. Ask them is your best bet as it changes from council to council
  • thanks everyone for your help
  • Hi I have just read that under the housing act of 1985
    If your spare room is under 70sqft approx 7x9ft it cannot be regarded as a spare room but is a box room. So you cannot be made to pay the tax.
    Is this true as my 'spare room' is only 6x8ft???
    If this is correct what can I do?
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