Inequalities in the workplace!

trukdiver

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote: »

Im surprised the OPs OH wears his jacket when its warm though. But the smarter the better for office work imo

In my first job, men had to wear suits and ties, even when it was hot. I used to get sores on my neck during the summer from the collar. If we left our desk, we had to put our jackets on... Women could wear what they liked! It wasn't as if we were in a customer facing environment - it was software development! :rotfl:

Then I left there and went to live in NZ and found a completely different attitude...

Andy_L

mttylad wrote: »

We get forced to wear a tie restricting our breathing in weather like this

That suggests you need to go up a shirt collar size.

Andy_L

Tigsteroonie wrote: »

I'd agree with this.

Despite the hot weather, I am still wearing smart office wear - trousers and a tailored shirt.

Generallising hugely I suspect most men wear the same material weight of trousers & shirt winter or summer rather than having lighter stuff for summer.

Personally I wouldn't (as I consider them the work of satan), but theres the always the short-sleeved shirt option - obviously if you must wear one then that's without a tie

woohoo_postingid

The tie is the strangest most ridiculous item of clothing ever invented.

It serves no purpose and it utterly useless.

Derivative

woohoo_postingid wrote: »

The tie is the strangest most ridiculous item of clothing ever invented.

It serves no purpose and it utterly useless.

Most items of clothing are.
In an 'ideal' world according to some posters we'd just wear pyjamas everywhere because they're most comfortable.

Some of us have a bit of self respect and prefer to look professional while on the job, or shock horror, even while going about everyday business.

Azari

Derivative wrote: »

In an 'ideal' world according to some posters we'd just wear pyjamas everywhere because they're most comfortable.

Or the one piece 'jump suits' that they have worn on so many science fiction programmes for decades.

When are they coming? And when do the personal jet-packs arrive?

woohoo_postingid

Derivative wrote: »

Some of us have a bit of self respect and prefer to look professional while on the job, or shock horror, even while going about everyday business.

Do people need a tie to have self respect and look professional ? The idea of hanging a piece of cloth around one's neck is just strange - I work in an office and wear shoes, trousers and a shirt to work, I have no need to wear a pointless item around my neck to make me look professional. I know I'm professional by my personal and work ethics as well as my abilities.

If I came in to work wearing a piece of cloth hanging from my belt, people would think it was weird - why is a tie any different ?

Derivative

woohoo_postingid wrote: »

Do people need a tie to have self respect and look professional ? The idea of hanging a piece of cloth around one's neck is just strange - I work in an office and wear shoes, trousers and a shirt to work, I have no need to wear a pointless item around my neck to make me look professional. I know I'm professional by my personal and work ethics as well as my abilities.

If I came in to work wearing a piece of cloth hanging from my belt, people would think it was weird - why is a tie any different ?

This is a rather ridiculous way of looking at things, really.
The lounge suit and tie combination is established as professional business attire. Trying to look at it objectively and ask "why is this item necessary", why do the lapels need to be this shape, why have pointless buttons on the sleeve, etc, is not really useful.

You can apply the same arguments and come out with the reasoning for not wearing a suit at all, and simply wearing pyjamas. Clothing is at the end of the day utterly pointless.

It's like denying that marketing exists. It shouldn't matter what combination of colours is on my packet of Corn Flakes, but it does, and millions of people buy leading brands based on marketing.

pinkshoes

As the ONLY girl in my office, I frequently have it pointed out that it's unfair that all the guys have to wear shirt and tie, and I can wear what I like, providing it's reasonably smart.


To be fair, I DID wear a shirt and tie one day, but boobs and ties just don't mix, and look ridiculous!

stephen77

Andy_L wrote: »

That suggests you need to go up a shirt collar size.

try having a 19 inch neck with a 34 inch waist.
shirts are very baggy at the best of time round the waist. Not wanting to have even baggier shirts.