Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

keggs

Quentin wrote: »

It would be too much to expect you to see that by exposing that you are NOT really the "very happy" uw bunny you keep claiming to be, and that you have a hidden agenda by continually posting here (when urging your uw colleagues not to) is very useful to other readers coming here.

I do wish you would stop saying things like this. It is totally untrue. I might have had reservations or been a bit aggrieved on occasions - that's perfectly normal but your accusation s completely unfounded. I AM NOT UNHAPPY. And if you don't stop these personal attacks I will have to resort to reporting it to the forum moderator.

keggs

Quentin wrote: »

Keggs has a scheme to get round the TPS requirements by phoning and pretending to be carrying out research on behalf of utility warehouse before launching into his sales patter. Just what he does with the research data he gathers like this he has never let on!

That's lie. I haven't. Apologise now or I'll report you to the moderator.

keggs

Just thought I would inform you all that I have just taken steps to report Quentin to the forum moderator for abuse.

keggs

werdna1981 wrote: »

I joined utility warehouse under my dad originally for gas, electric and a simcard as he conviced me that it would be the cheapest in my area. Later I found out that they didnt supply those utilities in my area so I cancelled with them. I kept the sim card just so my dad could reach his customer targets, the sim card cost me £10 and I thought that would be it but I keep getting charged £2.50 a month for having an account with them. I have since cancelled the account and direct debit but they have still been billing me and demanded the sim card back or they will charge me the full amount whatever that is ... Even though I orignally paid £10?

I haven't really heard anyone say much that is good about this company apart from the people who are trying to convince people to take their serve so that they can make a profit.

Thanks dad!

I'm sorry for your unfortunate incident. These things do at times happen. The account charge you mentioned isn't an account charge. It's a membership fee. As a member you get far more than just a cheap SIM for your mobile phone. If you dad is new to the business then it is likely he might not have mentioned that to you.Getting to nkow the ins and out of this business takes time.

As for your dad not having made any money. That depends on how many personal and group customers he has. Residual income only kicks in when he has 6 customers. Incidentally, if you (or he) were expecting this business to be a get rich quick scheme - it isn't. You have to work at it like everything else in this world.

Hope that helps

Quentin

keggs wrote: »

That's lie. I haven't. Apologise now or I'll report you to the moderator.

You are too quick to namecall me a liar.

Your phoney "survey" has been discussed here with you previously, I even published an extract from it, and asked what you did with the data.

This is the post in full:

Quentin wrote:

keggs wrote: »

You have lost the argument

As you cannot or will not answer the points raised, it is hardly an "argument".

Using "how low can you go" is just a little ott from someone who is now intending to call their "warm" list of friends and family with a so called survey where you will ask such questions as:

The Utility Warehouse can save the average household £600 per year on all their utilities. What would you use that £600 for?

q Car Insurance
q Car Tax
q Holiday Fund
q Clothes Shopping
q Weekend with family
q Give to Charity
qOther.....................................................

Do you think you would benefit from having the Best VALUE domestic gas and electricity in the UK?.

Just what does the uw intend to do with the results of this cynical worthless survey?

Your reply:

keggs wrote: »

As for 'my' survey I will do with results as I see fit.

Note no calling me a liar!

My reply:

Quentin wrote:

Do you think moneysavers don't deserve to know what is behind an "innocent" request to take part in a survey for the uw? When it is in fact just a cynical way of getting round tps rules etc, and get their reps an opportunity to sell utilities to their friends and relatives under the guise of "important research".

Just what will you do with all the answers gathered from prospects on what they will spend their £600 savings on if they sign up to uw?

Your reply to this, was to try and justify using a survey. Note no accusations from you then of "liar liar".

keggs wrote: »

Doing a survey is not a cold call in the sense of the word you are trying to use. Surveys are done all the time by many organisations. Some knock on doors. Others telephone. It is a legitimate way of getting information.

I replied:

Quentin wrote:

Are you claiming your bogus survey is genuine market research?

Your reply (again no mention of "liar liar") merely attempted to defend your actions:

keggs wrote: »

It can be interpreted that way. But what difference does it make to you whether or not it is genuine market research or a means of finding out possible interest....

Quentin

keggs wrote: »

Just thought I would inform you all that I have just taken steps to report Quentin to the forum moderator for abuse.

The abuse here is you calling me a "liar".

As shown in the above post, you have discussed using phoney market research when cold calling, but this has slipped your memory!

keggs

There is only one word to describe the sort of person you are - - bit old fashioned but it is a cad. You are a total disgrace. And if the forum moderators do not ban you for the continual libellous behaviour, Internet stalking and many other abuses you have performed here then I will have lost any faith in any of the site moderators here.:mad:

keggs

You are a liar. I have ever used any survey on businesses. That is a lie. Where is your evidence to back it up. I have in the past gone door knocking but that was several years ago. I have not done it since.I had considered doing again and revised a survey produced by a colleague but I have never used it. Where is your evidence to the contrary.

You are a liar and a disgrace.

Apologise now

AvengerSeawolf

Quentin wrote: »

The faux pas you refer to came as a result of a post here by another uw rep who told us he did get discount from his bill because he was a rep.

When I repeated this, another rep pointed out it was not true, and I replied that I "stood corrected".

The fault for this lies firmly with the original uw rep who posted the misleading info! (Though I should have known better than to take it as being correct!)

The misleading post (in full):

Nonsense...you know full well which post I am referring to - page 326 post number 6520.

You stated that I get £1500 for helping new ID's 'make it'. I've corrected you by telling you that I would not get this money it would be the new ID, and yet you choose not to acknowledge this.

Either you deliberately posted misleading information to cast doubt on the UW business model, or you misunderstood what you read/heard about the £1500 bonus - which is it?

AvengerSeawolf

werdna1981 wrote: »

He did try and turn me into a rep... Its such a con

Please explain? That's quite inflammatory comment.