Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

1carminestocky

No expert here but if you joined UW as a distributor and personally recruited 10,000 distributors who promptly did nothing at all (didn't even sign up as customers themselves), would you be rich, chris? Seems to me you wouldn't be any richer than you are now but maybe I'm missing summat?

Gerrard_8_lfc

1carminestocky wrote: »

do you believe British Gas Homecare prices are generally very good value for money? In fact, the cheapest of their kind on the market?

It realy depends on what you would class as value for money... would you like to be picking up and engineer's bill for perhaps 2 or 3 repairs needing done on your boiler?

There are people out there who have very unreliable boiler so if your asking me is it value you for money it depends on how much you use the service people want piece of mind by knowing the money they pay monthly if there boiler packs in they are not going to be out of at least £100 ( Depending whats wrong with the boiler).

1carminestocky wrote: »

What I'm really getting is I'm suggesting you make your living from selling very expensive products. Not actually my definition, I have 2 'independent' reviews - one from our very own Cardew and the other from the slightly more well-known Which?

You say very expensive you pay for what you get going back yes sure for example you could get cover let's say your bank there are many new schemes were they will cover your plumbing and drains and fixed electrics for £5 a month were BG is £10 a month.

Thats a wopping £5 more a month extra £60 a year but... when something goes wrong say the fusebox causes some problems but you are still getting power to your house ect ect and the bank say sorry its not an emergency as there is no total loss of power we will not cover this.

So off the person goes independant he repairs the fusebox that will be £80 or if it was a replacement fusebox £160 Whats value for money about that? The scenario can be reviewed over boiler cover plumbing, Drains ect ect.

BG Homecare yes may be expensive but you get what you pay for.:rolleyes:

And that is Unlimited Call outs parts and labour.

Gerrard_8_lfc

NigeWick wrote: »

Incorrect. I could pay less just for my electricity and gas because I use the pre payment card.

As a British Gas person, can you explain why you have many different tariffs, like standard, future energy, zero carbon, web saver 2, web saver 3 or whatever?

To suit peoples needs. Some people are happy to pay more for the likes of future energy or zero carbon.

Standard offers people a no tie in to the company so they can try it for themselfs and see if there tier prices suit there consumption first hand.

Can you explain why UW blame the fact that they feature as low down the likes of uswitch and moneysupermarket because they do not pay them... would it not be because there rates a very uncompetitive ?

Maybe investigate that then tell the agent of UW who "signs bucket loads of customers" its because a high tier pricing.

SwanJon

NigeWick wrote: »

As a British Gas person, can you explain why you have many different tariffs, like standard, future energy, zero carbon, web saver 2, web saver 3 or whatever?

For pretty much the same reason UW has low, medium and high user tariffs - different strokes for different folks.

1carminestocky

Gerrard_8_lfc wrote: »

It realy depends on what you would class as value for money... would you like to be picking up and engineer's bill for perhaps 2 or 3 repairs needing done on your boiler?

There are people out there who have very unreliable boiler so if your asking me is it value you for money it depends on how much you use the service people want piece of mind by knowing the money they pay monthly if there boiler packs in they are not going to be out of at least £100 ( Depending whats wrong with the boiler).



You say very expensive you pay for what you get going back yes sure for example you could get cover let's say your bank there are many new schemes were they will cover your plumbing and drains and fixed electrics for £5 a month were BG is £10 a month.

Thats a wopping £5 more a month extra £60 a year but... when something goes wrong say the fusebox causes some problems but you are still getting power to your house ect ect and the bank say sorry its not an emergency as there is no total loss of power we will not cover this.

So off the person goes independant he repairs the fusebox that will be £80 or if it was a replacement fusebox £160 Whats value for money about that? The scenario can be reviewed over boiler cover plumbing, Drains ect ect.

BG Homecare yes may be expensive but you get what you pay for.:rolleyes:

And that is Unlimited Call outs parts and labour.

Read my post again, I didn't say expensive, I stated that Cardew (very loyal BG customer) and Which? (independent World-famous consumer organisation) said they were expensive. Good enough for me. Which? thinks the service is either 'expensive' or 'very expensive' depending on the Homecare product. Not one was judged value for money. I think what I'm trying to get across to you (which you don't seem to comprehend) is that you appear to be having a go at people who sell UW products on grounds of it being expensive (although as I've demonstrated it's easily the cheapest for me due to the incentives offered) but then we discover that you derive your livelihood from selling expensive BG Homecare products. There would be some who would call you hypocritical here. No?

Does your aunt have a Homecare product?

1carminestocky

SwanJon wrote: »

For pretty much the same reason UW has low, medium and high user tariffs - different strokes for different folks.

And why does BG supercede its online tariffs every couple of months? And now we have the introduction of the exit fee, of course.

NigeWick

chrisclipson wrote: »

That's not the sort of pyramid that UW appears to be - your sort of pyramid is just the usual one where the people who do all the work get the least reward - that's called capitalism!

Now that to me, as a disinterested observer who has been approached by a 'friend' to join UW, is exactly what UW are doing. It's the same pyramid selling scheme as Amway, which sailed so close to the wind it had to go to court to argue its legality.

And you dislike the sort of "pyramid' where your rewards could be greater than if you work as hard at a "usual pyramid"?

Amway is not one of the best companies and they were taken to court by the US Government only to be confirmed as a lawful organisation by that Court. You may not recall, but, franchises such as McDonalds were also called "illegal" by people who did not understand the way they work.


I am an Independent Distributor with Utility Warehouse and any opinions expressed here are my own and may not be shared by the company.

NigeWick

Gerrard_8_lfc wrote: »

Can you explain why UW blame the fact that they feature as low down the likes of uswitch and moneysupermarket because they do not pay them... would it not be because there rates a very uncompetitive ?

If they are so uncompetitive, why has nobody been able to find Carmine a better deal for his requirements? British Gas have several different tariffs that include one more expensive per unit than Utility Warehouse. Why do you not provide everybody with cheaper fuel? Utility Warehouse also have a method of allowing some people to pay less for utilities than with any other provider. It may not be for everybody but it suits me and therefore could for millions of Sainsbury's shoppers.

1carminestocky

I actually couldn't believe chrisclipson's post had been thanked when it was clearly based on an untruth - then I saw who had pressed the thanks button, lol. The one who claimed to have seen French & Saunders on his TV 'most nights of the week'.

NigeWick

SwanJon wrote: »

For pretty much the same reason UW has low, medium and high user tariffs - different strokes for different folks.

Nah, Utility Warehouse low, medium and high user tariffs are for everybody. Other suppliers' different tariffs are targeted at people with internet access and other distinct groups.