Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

1carminestocky

Quentin wrote: »

Note that you never get to hear any drawbacks from the horses mouths!

Just imagine how you'd feel if you were one of their members, who signed up via your brother-in-law! (Without having read the threads here to get a better insight into the whole operation, and the tricks their reps are prepared to stoop to just to get a gullible customer on the books!)

Funnily enough, I've never seen you highlight the way the company you are with (funnily enough you never divulge but I'm assuming it's Scottish Power as they give the best cashback) get their customers to sign up at the door. This is a very much discredited industry, why pick on UW in particular, Quintin?

Once I am a customer, if my brother-in-law can do like me and get the very best deal on his utility bill by doing like me, I owe it to him to tell him about it and let him decide. Don't I? Surely that's what friends/family is all about. You only have to check today's posts out to realise that people aren't generally aware that they can get a better deal with this company than any other if they do what I do. Surely that's what a money saving site is all about, sharing money-saving knowledge?

epsilondraconis

Quentin wrote: »

Note that you never get to hear any drawbacks from the horses mouths!

Just imagine how you'd feel if you were one of their members, who signed up via your brother-in-law! (Without having read the threads here to get a better insight into the whole operation, and the tricks their reps are prepared to stoop to just to get a gullible customer on the books!)

I'd like to think my family members wouldn't become a UW distributor!

I agree their tactics are shocking; however I used to be an Npower customer and their sculpting actions are less than exemplary.

I've read a lot of this thread and to be honest, I think my overall feeling is that I wouldn't become a UW customer unless the savings are significant.

I think the main thing that turns me off is the American motivational approach that they bring. I guess the big 6 also have something like this, I guess its just less noticeable and less blatent.

Our fixed rate runs out in July and so I'll start some number cunching around June time to see what comes out best.

Cardew

Quentin,
Taking vinnyph's suggestion a little further, would you consider joining UW if they gave you all your Utilities free for a year and perhaps put £100 on your cashcard?

We all have our price!!!!

1carminestocky

Cardew wrote: »

Quentin,
Taking vinnyph's suggestion a little further, would you consider joining UW if they gave you all your Utilities free for a year and perhaps put £100 on your cashcard?

We all have our price!!!!

Funnily enough, they are the only energy supplier that could rightly claim that very scenario could happen (apart from the £100 on the cashback card, of course). I'm not saying it's probable but it is possible, of course (even Dawn French got £13 referral discount on her bill*)


*Before anyone with less sense of humour than Madge Allsop responds, YES, I was joking. :rolleyes:

Quentin

Cardew wrote: »

Quentin,
Taking vinnyph's suggestion a little further, would you consider joining UW if they gave you all your Utilities free for a year and perhaps put £100 on your cashcard?

I had presumed that was what vinnyph was suggesting (apart from the "free" £100) to get my input into the ear of the messiah Charles!

We are told they take a dim view of any disreputable actions/posts by their reps.

Wonder what category they put vinnyph's maiden post here into?

epsilondraconis

vinnyph wrote: »

I could already have the mini but the mini is too small as i am quite a tall chap, I tried sitting in one and people laughed because my head was right up in the roof, they could only see my smile and my chin moving from outside, singing the U.W.D.C. mantra and praising Charles Wigoder (notice he has god in has surname). I guess a soft top mini might be ok, but i could only use it on a sunny day.

I really need a bigger car. An Aston DB9 would be nice but as with most sports cars its a bit excessive and there isn't much headroom and a bit cramped. Maybe a Kia Sedona because they have loads of headroom and I can fit more people in, and the economy is surprisingly good.

The company gives me a bit of choice I guess. I used to be an electronics and software engineer, and physicist and and not your typical hard hitting high pressure salesman or business type that I feel people tend to brand sales people as. In fact I am not very good at selling things and don't like pressure sales people myself. However, because I am very friendly and would not say a bad thing about anyone, and always have a joke to cheer people up the people who were interested have referred other people they know to me as well, so if the customers are referring people I guess it must be good and have signed hundreds of people from referral. Maybe it has a bit to do with being liked but I guess I work hard at being liked. That is success in my book. A few customers have gone elsewhere because they saw some internet energy deal and looked on a price comparison site but have since come back again after a few months because it was only for a temporary period and then the price went up like the what happens with the B.G. on-line click deal and also they found problems getting in contact with the company providing the energy deal. Price isn't everything because there are other considerations as well, like time, hassle, service, value for money, trust, loyalty but then again if people take everything in the package with U.W.D.C. then its difficult to find a better deal overall and by the time you do you have to swap again. I guess the price comparison web sites would like people to keep swapping every few months because they keep getting paid a commission every time someone swaps. I don't think my customers worry too much about the fact I get paid because I tell them and they stay, but I guess they also realise that I will always try to help them to keep them happy and they like me. A friendly face they like. Gives me a reason to smile:D



I was once told that sales is the oldest profession

.......

(if you are think that something else is the oldest profession, that is just a subset of sales)

(also, you have sex on the mind)

It seems you're not a nutter after all

I take my hat off to you vinnyph - good post.

1carminestocky

epsilondraconis wrote: »

It seems you're not a nutter after all

I take my hat off to you vinnyph - good post.

Have to agree, it's an excellent post. Vinnyph seems like a likeable fellow. Maybe some of us should take his lead (me included ).

Quentin

vinnyph wrote: »

I was once told by someone that U.W.D.C. is like gay sex, don't knock it until you try it (by the way I am completely straight myself).

Not quite sure what you want of me??

At least being given such a simile (presumably by a uw rep) is so much better than being told the lies that the majority of uw reps who visit this site try on us!

(ie "We guarantee to be the cheapest - if you don't believe me look at the triple value guarantee")

From what we have learned here by their visits, you are in bed with a lot of unscrupulous business people!

Cardew

vinnyph wrote: »

A few customers have gone elsewhere because they saw some internet energy deal and looked on a price comparison site but have since come back again after a few months because it was only for a temporary period and then the price went up like the what happens with the B.G. on-line click deal and also they found problems getting in contact with the company providing the energy deal. Price isn't everything because there are other considerations as well, like time, hassle, service, value for money, trust, loyalty but then again if people take everything in the package with U.W.D.C. then its difficult to find a better deal overall and by the time you do you have to swap again. I guess the price comparison web sites would like people to keep swapping every few months because they keep getting paid a commission every time someone swaps.

Thank goodness for a post with some humour! I can't think why you would have posted such sad nonsense in your first post.

Actually it is not difficult to find a better deal overall. U.W. have consistently provided some of the most expensive gas and electricity for the last couple of years. As has been stated many times, their guarantee on prices is meaningless.
Just use the comparison websites to confirm how far down the 'league table' UW always appear.

Quentin

vinnyph wrote: »

I wonder where all the money comes from to pay for all the those expensive adverts on TV that the price comparison sites put out and there are many of them doing it. It means the long term loyal customers end up paying higher rates. It means all our prices go up. The money has to come from somewhere.

There is no secret - the money comes from the suppliers who pay the comparison sites commission for supplying them customers.

Uw also use comparison sites, and pay them commission just like all the others. And go to the right ones and they will share the commission with the customer. A uw customer should definitely take advantage of that!!

Don't really get the point you try to make?