Update on the college excel case!

Stephen_Leak

I doubt it. Doesn't he have to return to his coffin before daybreak? Would his have tarmac in the bottom?

Coupon-mad

cona674 wrote: »

Just thought id let you know whats going on if you remember me lol!

Yep I remember you.:p

ppc_guy

Hi from the dark side.....

As stated they will not do anything in 99.999999999999999999999999% of instances. The only time someone would get taken to court in my inside knowledge would be when they have repeatedly parked in contravention of the terms and conditions of the site. I.E they parked there for 5+ days whilst getting a physical ticket on their car on each occasion.

Otherwise they will send you some letters and maybe some phone calls and texts but just ignore them. The best wy to deal with roxburghe, TNC DRPL and so on is to refuse to confirm your ID. This means they cant get anywhere as if they say "oh its about Mr X's parking ticket on 21st of Whenever" they would be breaching DPA.

P.S This forum doesnt have that much of an impact on our income. Some appeals letters are directly cut and pasted of this forum but normally include a payment cheque too. This is a bad idea because as stated once paid the appeal is pretty much dusted away by most PPC's

give_them_FA

Thanks for a commodity all too rare in this business, guy- honesty.

I think we would all appreciate that this forum isn't making too much of a dent, simple reason, the people who find us are just the tip of the iceberg, there are still a lot of people out there who know no better than to play the PPC game.

The whole shambles that is private parking enforcement really stems from the vacuum of any joined up policy on the subject by the authorities. On the one hand we have the private sharks seeking to get rich quick by exploiting peoples' ignorance; and using blatant cheating at times; while I equally appreciate that those who know the system can co ck a snook at even genuine, fair rules. The system has been crying out for proper regulation for many years, but don't expect it from this Government.

ppc_guy

FA,

To be fair i deal with all the appeals from our company nationally and am also the only person to answer the phones this gives me full "control" (dare i say that word) over the whole appeal system,

I am a "FAIR" person and if i feel even our staff have been over zealous i will cancel the tickets. Im not sure what % but people do come up with some total carp excuses for parking. I appreciate you dont agree with this business but on the flip side what would you do if someone came and parked on your drive way so you could not get in?

give_them_FA

That's a hoary old chestnut, guy! My drive way is not dedicated to public parking... unlike a car park!!

trisontana

Compare that attitude to one by highlighted yesterday on CAG. In that case a couple were faced with a dire medical emergency concerning premature twins (one of which died) . The distraught couple made a mistake over a scratch-card private parking permit and are now being chased by Vinci/Roxbourgh over a £70 "parking charge", even though they wrote to the PPC informing them of the circumstances and appealing to their better nature.

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?343156-DaVinci-amp-Roxburghe(1-Viewing)-nbsp

give_them_FA

Didn't put it on CAG, and probably inappropriate at this time, but I can see the National press putting that in a prominent place if they wanted to go that route.

Sorry, ppc-guy, while you are the acceptable face of the industry, it is cases like this that make one want to bring back hanging.

Unbelievably bad.

HO87

give_them_FA wrote: »

The whole shambles that is private parking enforcement really stems from the vacuum of any joined up policy on the subject by the authorities. On the one hand we have the private sharks seeking to get rich quick by exploiting peoples' ignorance; and using blatant cheating at times; while I equally appreciate that those who know the system can co ck a snook at even genuine, fair rules. The system has been crying out for proper regulation for many years, but don't expect it from this Government.

With respect, private parking is being regulated for the very reason that it is now viewed as an intergral part of the overall policy of the government to reduce the use of private vehicles, not otherwise.

I recommend reading through the BPA submissions to the parliamentary committee prior to the publishing of the POF Bill that makes this very clear. Did you think their proposals - including RK responsibility - sailed through the ministry with ne'er a substantial change for no reason?

As for the private driveway argument, ppc_guy, I suggest you think that one through a little. Car parks may be private property but they are set aside for the general public to enter on to without restriction. Many have that written into the planning permission they owe their exitence to. My private driveway is not open to use by the general public for any purpose least of all as a car park. Period. That is what the gates are there for.

This always was a strawman argument and has no logical basis whatsoever. Now, if you were to suggest that a landowner has a right to secure and protect his property I'd entirely agree. I'd also accept that he may take reasonable steps to do so but is it resonable to simply allow a PPC to erect a few signs and penalise people for failing to abide by some arbitrary rules? My gates were expensive and do the job they were reasonably intended to do.

If a PPC was truly interested in management then they'd control the parking not simply extract charges for the motorist failing to control themselves. That is hardly reasonable and equates to my opening my gates and posting signs around my garden telling people that they were trespassing and then complaining that they were there.

ppc_guy

As before I do prefer control over punishment.

We approach people and inform them before we take any enforcement action where possible even calling people up the road "Excuse me mate you cant park there" to which we are often greeted with either a thank you or a chain of expletives.

With the story above about the birth that is a disgusting case and if someone PM's me the details where possible i will call my contact at roxburghe about this ticket.