can a lodger be a lodger when he's a boyfriend?

Dunroamin

spottydottydodah wrote: »

I know he would really like to live together and I am not hugely against it, I like having him around, other than perhaps enjoying my own space a bit too much at times!

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Regardless of benefits, this really doesn't sound like a good motivation for living with someone. Does your BF know that you feel like this about him?

Katykat

OP, you say you dont want to be dependant on any man including your boyfriend, yet you mention that he doesn't have a job and also no home. So how would he be supporting you financially? He apparently doesn't have any earned income, so Do you mean that he receives benefits? In which case, if you pooled both your benefits, you could then live openly as a couple. Yes, you would be classed by DWP as a couple, but you cant have it all ways. Its also not worth the stress. You will always be looking over your shoulder and there will inevitably be someone who would report you.

dseventy

#Love is in the air...#

D70

fogartyblue.

Soapn wrote: »

how can you rent a room out to him when you are getting council tax benefit and housing benefit to pay for the place you are in.

The rental income would be treated as income.

However as this is 'social housing' I presume the tenant would need permission to sub let.

fogartyblue.

People seem to be confusing what the original question is from a point of view of benefit law with wanting to move in together and being a couple.

Surely, if everything is in place, permissions etc, what is wrong with just keeping it simple and treating it as a house share? Why do people always jump the gun and assume that when someone moves in with another person it automatically means that they are in a relationship?

When I was a student I had the unfortunate experience of house sharing with three girls and me, the only male. It was a complete nightmare!
I would have defied anyone to suggest that there was any 'relationship' going on with one, two or all three!

Mojisola

fogartyblue. wrote: »

Why do people always jump the gun and assume that when someone moves in with another person it automatically means that they are in a relationship?

spottydottydodah wrote: »

Hiya, I have been with my boyfriend for about a year and things are going well. I would like to move tentatively forward with our lives together but not too fast, and have issues about sharing money/becoming dependant for reasons I shall go into below.

Because spotty says that he is her boyfriend?

HappyMJ

Mojisola wrote: »

Because spotty says that he is her boyfriend?

Boyfriend does not equal partner or in the benefit rule book living together as husband and wife LTAHAW or in the case of two people of the same sex living together as civil partners LTACP.

Mojisola

But if he moves in because they "want to move forward with our lives together" they will be LTAHAW.

Shazaaym

I get this

princess*daisy wrote: »

I can't actually believe this thread! My partner and I live together, but are mostly financially independent from each other. Basically we don't have any joint accounts or joint debts, I pay the mortgage as the house is in my name and I earn more. He chips in for bills, council tax and groceries. However, I would never consider him to be a "lodger"! Either you are a couple or not, end of. Regardless of how you choose to manage your financial affairs between you, if you are a couple and live together, you should rightfully be treated as such. If couples could live as "lodgers", then everyone would be doing it to claim extra benefits!

But also this

HappyMJ wrote: »

Is no-one allowed to ask question's on here. The OP does not want extra benefits they in fact said they would declare the income received and it would affect their housing benefit claim and the OP would get less. They are just asking the question. I would imagine the OP does not want to lose all benefits and be totally dependant on someone else for all money but losing some would be OK. You obviously work and pay your own mortgage which would not be covered by benefits but if you stopped working for whatever reason would you expect your partner to pay your mortgage and still have no claim on your property? As soon as your partner is seen as contributing to the mortgae or the maintenance of the property then he can have a claim on the property.

It is possible for two unrelated friends to live together and potentially not quite be a couple as yet and claim as two seperate single people.

Apparently (and this is just anecdotal, not benefit law) after 12 months of sharing a home with someone of the opposite sex, you're treated as being in a relationship anyway! That's what happened to some friends of mine (who wouldn't dream of bumping uglies, one of them was a lesbian!)

I had a visit one day (a long time ago) from an advisor/investigator who, advised me, (after only being with someone for 4 months, who lived 3 miles away (but we did spend a lot of time together walking our dogs, and not even the mythological 3 nights)) that we should put in a joint claim!

I asked him if he was in cahoots with my mum, she'd been trying to get me married off for years :rotfl:

Shazaaym

Mojisola wrote: »

But if he moves in because they "want to move forward with our lives together" they will be LTAHAW.

What does that ^^ mean?