Cheap-to-tax diesels... need advice!

Notmyrealname

Wig wrote: »

There's a lot of threads about dpf filters at the moment apparently they cost about £1000 to replace (if they are choked up) on diesel cars nearing the 75K - 100K mileage mark, making scrapping the car possibly the only economical solution.
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How many have actually failed? How many have failed because the car does nothing but short 2-3 mile journeys?

You don't buy a diesel to do 2-3 mile journeys all the time - that just breaks them.

Wig

Notmyrealname wrote: »

How many have actually failed? How many have failed because the car does nothing but short 2-3 mile journeys?

You don't buy a diesel to do 2-3 mile journeys all the time - that just breaks them.

Did you not see the thread of the person who bought a used car from a dealer and the dpf needs changed at 75K at a cost of £1000..... that poster is now going to have the hassle of a possibly unscrupulous dealer not wanting to pay for the problem.

citykid5

Notmyrealname wrote: »

How many have actually failed? How many have failed because the car does nothing but short 2-3 mile journeys?

You don't buy a diesel to do 2-3 mile journeys all the time - that just breaks them.

as long as you buy a older diesel without the dpf,it would still make sence to buy a diesel over the petrol model because of the lower ved.in general smaller diesel which qualify for the lower ved and without dpf are trouble free motoring,and every time fuel prices rise,so does the prices/saleabilty of the small diesel car,i don't think you can say that of it's much higher taxed petrol equivelent

aqueousdan92

Notmyrealname wrote: »

How many have actually failed? How many have failed because the car does nothing but short 2-3 mile journeys?

You don't buy a diesel to do 2-3 mile journeys all the time - that just breaks them.

I literally will be doing just that and that is what my Mondeo does right now. Work is around 6 miles away. Just far enough if it is raining not to do away with the car completely. I will be using my bicycle to ride in and out of work in the warmer months but the car sitting there eating up bigger tax/insurance costs makes me want to get the small diesel.

You won't get £1000 trade in for your Mondeo, sorry.

I was pretty sure I wouldnt get that either Keep on living in hope eh!

neilmcl

aqueousdan92 wrote: »

I literally will be doing just that and that is what my Mondeo does right now. Work is around 6 miles away. Just far enough if it is raining not to do away with the car completely. I will be using my bicycle to ride in and out of work in the warmer months but the car sitting there eating up bigger tax/insurance costs makes me want to get the small diesel.

You won't get £1000 trade in for your Mondeo, sorry.

I was pretty sure I wouldnt get that either Keep on living in hope eh!

You have to work out the whole cost of motoring for the year, don't just concentrate on one thing such as road tax. Given that diesel is near enough 10p more expensive than petrol at the moment and the few miles you actually do as well as the increased cost premium of purchasing a diesel you may find that you would still be quids in if you bought a fairly economical petrol car instead.

Buying a diesel, especially one with high mileage, isn't a good idea if you're only doing minimal mileage each day.

getmore4less

For the number of days it will be really too cold/wet to cycle dump the car and get the bus/taxi/car share.

or buy better cycle gear.

On very low miles it looks like you might be putting £2k in to save very little

Allthough I do agree that the sit on the drive costs for convenience are the big chunk when on very low miles. I would want that 2k to give me a keeper that will have a long life.

What about a classic, low miles insurance and no tax?

Wig

aqueousdan92 wrote: »

I literally will be doing just that and that is what my Mondeo does right now.

You run the risk of ruining your diesel engine if you drive such a short journey, and it is short journeys that will choke up a dpf filter more quickly.

getmore4less

Wig wrote: »

You run the risk of ruining your diesel engine if you drive such a short journey, and it is short journeys that will choke up a dpf filter more quickly.

At this price point we are looking at old tech no dpf, no dmf, an there might even be some with no turbo.

filters, oil and glow plugs.

Sgt_Pepper_2

getmore4less wrote: »

At this price point we are looking at old tech no dpf, no dmf, an there might even be some with no turbo.

filters, oil and glow plugs.

So in answer to the original question from the op. What will be the tax on uif older diesels?

worried_jim

I had a 1997 Vauxhall Astra 1.7td and the tax was £215 per year.

Cars registered before 1 March 2001
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524

I now drive a 2.0 petrol and the tax is £215 per year.